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asmo asmogo@cashu.me 1 year ago
After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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NWS - enable TCP on Nostr . Contribute to asmogo/nws development by creating an account on GitHub.

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7fqx 7fqx@ditto.pub 1 year ago
I have no idea what this is, but it's probably cool.
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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NWS - enable TCP on Nostr . Contribute to asmogo/nws development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Derek Ross derekross@grownostr.org 1 year ago
When someone tells you that Nostr is just a Twitter alternative, tell them that our developers are literally rebuilding the Internet.
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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Nice and Kind Vic vic@cornychat.com 1 year ago
Looks like fun
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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npub1rw7h...sl3w 1 year ago
thanks for sharing, sounds very interesting, i'll try to use it locally as described in the repo and report any feedback!
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calle calle@cashu.me 1 year ago
Was referring to > Fairly useless without a browser I'm pretty sure this design also enables use with browsers when combined with DNS and traffic is allowed to exit into the open internet.
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Hope this fix nostr ip leak into the relays itself
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 1 year ago
Casually replacing IP. πŸš€
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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nobody 1 year ago
this sounds really cool, well done.
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vinney...axkl vcavallo@vinneycavallo.com 1 year ago
This is a very powerful, useful and interesting new development. There's no reason to piss on it because it didn't also rebuild the entire world. Everything doesn't have to be relevant for every normal person on earth in order to be useful and exciting for some (at first).
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calvadev⚑️ calvadev@calva.dev 1 year ago
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After several weeks of persistent effort, I'm excited to share Nostr Web Services (NWS). NWS makes your web service reachable without having a publicly accessible IP address or DNS. All you need is an npub and a set of Nostr relays. A wide range of existing services could be run on NWS without requiring any significant changes. NWS achieves this by establishing a TCP connection between client and server which can be used by these applications. Please keep in mind, that the software is in a very early state and not even released yet.
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npub19wdg...lx5z 1 year ago
It doesn't matter if I piss on it or not. It doesn't matter if it's exciting to autists. It needs to be useful for a good chunk of people or it's another joke fad.
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ynniv ynniv@ynniv.com 1 year ago
lol, discoverability is still a problem in nostr. But, suspending disbelief, the result of discovering something is an extractable address. We don't say that Twitter provides discoverability and then conclude that Twitter should implement a new transport protocol.
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ynniv ynniv@ynniv.com 1 year ago
Tor is slow because it works and people use it. Bouncing requests through one or two nodes won't provide reliable anonymity, and using relays as TCP/IP will be unbearably slow if more than two people actually use it.
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ponymontanaπŸ’œβš‘ ponymontana@nostriches.club 1 year ago
tor is slow because therse no anti-spam (actually they added a sort of proof of work client side, but it is not so effective), theres no incentive to run nodes that are the facto moslty feds and volountary. If you add micropayments as spam filter and as economic incentive for people to run relays, you can have a tor network that scales. Also its trivial to implement in a way that provide reliable anonimity, it just need to reimplement onion routing, all problems in theory are solved.
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asmo asmogo@cashu.me 1 year ago
By having all TCP packets proxied by the entry node, the number of incoming IP addresses for the relay operator is significantly reduced. This simplifies IP blacklisting in case of an attack, as NWS funnels all client requests through the entry nodes. Consequently, the distribution of requests is determined by the total number of entry nodes. If your goal is to DDoS Nostr relays, it's likely more effective to flood them with normal events.
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Anonymous 1 year ago
Furthermore, you can't trust Tor servers and a huge part of them are run by governments. The difference here is that we can choose the relay servers and avoid the ones we don't exactly trust.
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Anonymous 1 year ago
Nostr relays are few, it is easier to expose rogue actors.
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Melvin Carvalho _@melvincarvalho.com 1 year ago
NWS main components Entry node: It forwards tcp packets to the exit node using a SOCKS proxy and creates encrypted events for the public key of the exit node. Exit node: It is a TCP reverse proxy that listens for incoming Nostr subscriptions and forwards the payload to the designated backend service. image
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vinney...axkl vcavallo@vinneycavallo.com 1 year ago
Cats should be skinned many ways. Different approaches are better or worse for different contexts. Also, surprising net-new discoveries are made beyond the frontier when you re-solve a problem with a new stack. Sometimes some property of the stack, in connection with the "already solved problem", reveals novel new territory. (Look at "the microblog UX" getting "re-solved" by Nostr)
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shadow06 1 year ago
I'm confused... How does this expand NOSTR's capabilities?
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asmo asmogo@cashu.me 1 year ago
Any contribution is welcome! Whether you want to be a contributor, an exit or entry node runner, or just help spread the word. I'm currently working on adding an HTTPS reverse proxy with auto-generated self-signed certificates. This will allow exit node runners to accept encrypted HTTPS connections from public entry nodes without enabling TLS in their backend services at all.
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Add HTTPS reverse proxy support by asmogo Β· Pull Request #21 Β· asmogo/nws
This update includes the implementation of an HTTPS reverse proxy running next to the exit node.
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Xis10tial1 1 year ago
Seems like you're expending quite the effort to reinvent the wheel, no? Exit/Entry nodes? Why wouldn't you just use a more simple system already in place established by P2P tech?
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npub19wdg...lx5z 1 year ago
All software I use was useful to millions of people from the beginning. Browser, media player, terminal emulator. Remember the app economy that didn't happen? Now you know it's cause the modern userbase chose 10 apps and nothing custom. Regardless, what problem does Nostr solve? Talking about bitcoin was never a problem
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