the internet is fucked.
- govs can turn off the internet for everyone whenever they want, surveil entire populations, and attack people’s privacy
- few corps control the physical infrastructure and can censor websites, domains, block protocols or entire countries
- billionaires and mega corps control social media and manipulate news, politics, brainwash entire populations
- AI already producing infinite slop responsible for the majority of all new content on the internet today
the internet is so fucked.
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I wonder how many people are running Bitchat in Iran
3 words.
nostr over reticulum.
We need decentralized open sourced protocol everywhere more than ever. We need #MoralMoney #grownostr #nostr
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Not really. Internet is very resilient over long term. Governments need the internet more than we do, because it has become necessary for their propaganda.
The centralized internet is indeed broken: it has become a playground for surveillance, censorship, and AI noise. But this chaos is exactly what’s fueling the rise of the sovereign internet.
While governments and corporations scramble to control the kill switches, we are building networks they simply cannot turn off. By moving from platforms to open protocols like Nostr, the permissionless freedom of Bitcoin, and P2P communications, we are making their control obsolete.
The optimism doesn't come from hoping the system gets better; it comes from realizing we already have the tools to bypass it. They might own the infrastructure, but we hold the private keys. The future isn't centralized—it belongs to those who own their data.
Also the Internet is awesome... Use it wisely...
We need decentralized open sourced protocol everywhere more than ever. We need #MoralMoney #grownostr #nostr
It's always been fucked, the Internet just exposes it
im sorry 🫂 i have demoted my vendetta towards you and extinguished my animosity towards you.
it's a tough time out there.
Not nearly enough
Real solutions are urgently needed; proclamations are of no use to anyone or anything.
Do you have any concrete suggestions other than cashu or bitchat?
Freedom tech is going to win :)
if you havent seen The Last Kingdom, the first couple seasons are really nice there is a lot of camaraderie and swords and love and jokes and touching moments and sad stuff.
it could be nice to watch rn. i am. and im glad i am. they didnt have the internet back then so it might offer a fantasy vacation that helps.
ZK Technology is the unfuck key

It was gone time ago but the noise was too loud for people to listen
There no layer one freedom tech..Even Lora could be easily turned off if they want to. Other tech partially safe from censorship is way far from regular people reach. No layer one, no freedom
That looks a bit more reasonable. As usual tech savy people will be at another level.
Unabomber was right
How do we keep nostr and Bitcoin running in a hostile governement environment? Is it even possible?

The American government spent 15 years trying to stop Bitcoin before they started trying to control it.
The real threat isn't government shutting it down it's corrupt Devs working with government.
That's the only real threat to Bitcoin
That's one word for every daily active user on nostr.
Yup. Been that for a while and getting rapidly worse.
Just been wandering if this new wave of privacy topics is still worth pursuing. If big tech & secret services can profile you with just 3 tweets/purchases/30 sec voicemail etc. they have everyone in the bag anyway, no?
There was a ‘privacy wave‘ in the 1980s among the hacking community (famously called cypherpunks now) and then again in regular intervals until today where it has reached mainstream.
And still surveillance on all levels is getting out of hand and protecting against it near impossible.
Most important in the current ‘wave’ is the fight against censorship & internet shutdowns and you are doing an invaluable service to the communities! Thank you 🙏
#Bitchat
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But how do we keep it usable for all the people who need it, even when they shut down internet, like they did in Iran?
The west could also go full North Korea. If we get to the stage of worrying if they are killing lora signals we’ve lost anyway.
If we’re at the point of worrying about what websites they think they can censor then they’ve lost.
Webs of trust are going to be extremely important in the future as @calle says a lot of new content is AI slop. Nostr or similar tech will have its day.
We are gonna make it.
Also, not all goverments and cultures share the same values and principles. Let's help to make sure that is properly decentralised too.
You nailed it!
Truth
I think worst. At that frequency they can triangulate every signal and locate all the "problematic" dissidents. The gap between gov't tech and average Joe tech is widening. I was in the development of contactless cards in the 90's. This is the tech people barely understand today. Everything else that has been created in the next thirty years is sci-fi and not public yet.
Spot on! This is exactly why decentralized tools and freedom of speech are more important than ever. We must protect our digital privacy before it's too late. Thank you for raising your voice on this crucial issue!
gott run a mesh network and get on bitchat quick before these cunts send us to the frontlines
Yeah, we're looking into this, too. LoRa stuff is interesting. Need to decentralize Internet more.
It depends on how widespread the crackdown is. It would take a very well coordinated global crackdown.
Governments can't afford to keep internet shutdown for long, its causes a lot of economic strain.
Most money is digital fiat and it doesn't work without internet.
You can connect to the blockchain via satellite, but that means relying on blockstream an American company, and the satellites are third party, Samsung etc.
I have no idea if it ever came to anything but some researchers were updating blocks over long range radio signals awhile ago.
The network is far more resilient than anyone realises.
💯
For people in an area with internet shutdown they're going to need the technical knowledge to get around it before the shutdown happens.
Communication is a bigger issue in that scenario, especially local.
Especially if you're fighting against the state.
After a few weeks when internet is back on your Bitcoin is where you left it on chain.
I am very sorry for Giorgia
As an Italian, it’s sad to watch how this is playing out.
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In <3y, 99% of online content will be AI generated....then screened by AI before being posted.
AI screening AI...
Amen internet is fucked... been saying this since...
unfortunately the developer seems to be burnt out atm....
Well. I'm also a developer. And our team has a bunch of electrical engineers, mathematicians, physicists, and computer scientists.
We're cooking up something, at the moment. We'll see.
All LoRa protocols rely on proprietary chips from one single American company 🤣
Maybe. We can still buy US tech.
Bitcoin. Lightning. Nostr. GrapheneOS. Thank fuck
Yep.
First 3 for me. Have to go further 😅
I agree that the internet is a fundamentally missdesigned system. Easily censorable (e.g. Iran would be offline right now if Elon felt like it).
Surveilance is not true tho. Confidentiality is easily achieved by https or other encryptions.
The internet is a fundamentally missdesigned system. It is impossible to own a domain, one can only rent one.
Every generation inherits a broken system. Ours just happens to be digital. The rebuild won’t look loud, it’ll look quiet, parallel, and opt-in.
Exactly why we need proof that cannot be faked or bribed!
🥦Brockbox.com
Step by step. That's how we opt out
All things double edged.
A knife can carve beautiful wood or kill a man
One way street. Adopt or die
And the privacy protocols are born
Just go with the flow, don't fight it, cut back on obvious scams though and digitalID, just do normal internet stuff with Bitcoin. Oh and have other private hardware system running in parallel, bolstered by private AI, Nostr, ObscuraVPN and other tools. This is the way.
Thank God for all 4
And *WHO* HAD A MAJOR Role in *CREATING* that PROBLEM??
Your Pal @jack with his VERY VERY STUPID *BAD* Biz DECISION MISTAKE!! 😡
i think *You* SHOULD BE TALKING TO YOUR VERY WEALTHY Buddy re in HELPING *FIXING* PROBLEMS IN HIS Country *CAUSED BY* HIS MAJOR FUCK-UP!!!!
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I'm not sure you black pilled hard enough.
