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Romper con los intermediarios y conectar directamente al creador con su audiencia es la verdadera revolución del Value for Value. Excelente reflexión de Joe Martin en el Ep 6 sobre cómo devolverle el control económico al arte.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Direct peer-to-peer artist funding is huge, but what’s been the biggest barrier in getting traditional fans—who aren't already into Bitcoin,,,,to actually set up a wallet and zap their favorite creators?
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Es un cambio de paradigma total: pasar del consumo pasivo a una relación directa y tangible. Al final, los artistas son quienes le dan alma a la cultura, y que puedan recibir su recompensa en sats, de forma descentralizada, es un paso gigante hacia una industria más justa.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Spotify pays roughly $0.003 to $0.005 per stream, so 1,000 streams earns an artist about $3 to $5. That is the math the flip is up against.
Vaya! historia la de Joe Martin, cantautor que aboga por el valor por valor sin AI más música humana y promover el uso de Bitcoin, RSS y Nostr para que los artistas moneticen su trabajo de forma directa, justa y soberana. ;)
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Value for value puts the creator back where they belong: at the center. No gatekeepers, no waiting for platforms to decide what your work is worth. Just fans supporting artists directly, one sat at a time. ⚡️₿
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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al fin el artista cobra primero y los spotify de la vida dejan de morfar como si no hubiera un mañana. ahora falta q la gente pague por la musica y no se haga la boluda con el clásico "pasame el link q despues te escucho". value for value!!
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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This is what music needs: artists connecting directly with the people who value their work.⚡Value for value turns every sat into real support, without waiting for labels or platforms to decide what creators deserve. More freedom for artists, more power to fans. That’s the future!
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Cambian las tornas el mundo artístico. El fan paga al artista directamente en sats y no cobra antes ni la discografica ni ningún intermediario. Las cosas vuelven a donde siempre debieron estar.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Pagar al artista directamente en sats cambia quién decide qué merece apoyo: el oyente, sin esperar un reparto de la plataforma. El reto del valor por valor es convertir ese gesto en ingresos recurrentes. ¿Cómo facilitar aportes habituales sin volver a poner un intermediario?
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Für Künstler ist es einfach wunderbar wenn es so läuft wie es läuft hier auf nostr, nostr ist ein protokoll welches Künstlern wieder einen mehrwert gibt und sie ihre Kunst frei und offen zur verfügung stellen können und dafür sats efhalten ist ein unglaubluch toller fortschritt.!
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Concordo! Por décadas o artista foi o último a receber: gravadoras, plataformas e intermediários ficavam com a maior fatia. O Value for Value inverte isso: o fã paga direto ao artista, em sats, sem ninguém no meio. Mais justo, mais transparente. Excelente episódio, Joe Martin! ⚡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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#AQSTR Value for value flipping the order is the key point. For a century labels, platforms and middlemen ate first and artists got paid last. A fan paying the artist directly in sats removes that whole line. Great quote from Joe Martin in Ep 6. How does he get fans on board?
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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This is a massive game-changer for the creator economy! Cutting out the traditional gatekeepers and enabling instant, direct micropayments via sats gives full sovereignty back to the artists. Value-for-value is definitely the future of music monetization.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Totalmente de acuerdo! El modelo tradicional exprime al creador mientras los intermediarios se llevan la mayor parte. El sistema de valor por valor con sats (Bitcoin) le devuelve el poder a quienes realmente hacen el arte. Es el camino hacia una economía musical más justa y direc
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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For a century the artist was the last one paid. Value for Value just fired the middlemen and put the fan in charge of the paycheck… in sats. Ep 6 with @Joe Martin makes it look almost too simple.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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This is the one thing that wouldn't just ensure that artists are able to keep more of what they earn, but it would free them up to more creative self expression without fearing any censorship from their labels or radio stations.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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I agree completely with you 🔥 Today there so many tools to escape that old protocol. V4V is the future for artists🚀 There are a lot of interesting projects already adopting the new way to express yourself with out compromises or middleman🇮🇹
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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El modelo V4V no solo elimina intermediarios; reestructura la relación incentivo-creador. Eliminar las comisiones de las discográficas mediante micro-pagos nativos en sats convierte el consumo pasivo en mecenazgo directo y sostenible. Futuro de la música 🎙️⚡️
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Value for value changes the incentives, but the real challenge is discovery. Artists still need ways to reach new audiences, and fans need easy ways to support them. Bitcoin makes direct payments possible without intermediaries taking the biggest cut.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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The best part of Value for Value is that it aligns incentives between creators and their audience. Bitcoin enables instant, borderless support in sats, giving artists more independence. The next step is making discovery and micropayments simple enough for everyone to participate.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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The real shift is that fans become active supporters, not just consumers. Paying artists directly in sats could make independent music more sustainable.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Removing middlemen is a throwback to the ancient practice of "patronage". Patrons sponsoring artists through zaps, the Lightning network, or directly on-chain is fantastic. Nostr enables the communication and value transfer directly between the artists, their work, and patrons.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Removing middlemen is a throwback to the ancient practice of "patronage". Patrons sponsoring artists through zaps, the Lightning network, or directly on-chain is fantastic. Nostr enables the communication and value transfer directly between the artists, their work, and patrons.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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🎶 Artists deserve to get rewarded directly for the value they create. No middlemen taking the biggest cut, just fans supporting the music they love with sats. This is what the future of music should look like! ⚡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Value for value is truth. No middlemen, no inflation. Like zero-waste carnivore: direct source, pure fuel. We bypass the system and take what is real, without the sludge of corporate dilution.
Artists got paid last" — a century of quiet violence, never named as such. Flipping the order changes more than cash flow; it changes who the work answers to. Curious what happens to curation once the middleman's taste stops gating discovery.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Beyond the technical setup, what has been the biggest mental hurdle for independent artists switching from traditional subscription/streaming models to asking fans for voluntary 'Value for Value' support—and how do you recommend overcoming it?
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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For a century artists ate last while labels and platforms took the cut. Value for value flips the script: the fan pays the artist straight in sats. No middlemen. Just pure support. @Joe Martin nails it in Ep 6. This is the shift music needed.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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A century of predatory music labels and parasitic middlemen getting fat off artist royalties ends here. Value-for-value via lightning isn't just a new format; it's a structural revolution. Fan straight to creator, streaming pure sats for pure talent. Monopolies are over. 🎸⚡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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A century of legacy labels and parasitic middlemen getting fat off artist royalties ends here. Value-for-value isn't just a new format; it's a structural revolution. Fan straight to Joe Martin, streaming pure sats for the song. The music monopoly is officially over. 🎸⚡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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For a century, artists got paid last while labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Flipping it so the fan pays the artist directly in sats via value for value is a total game-changer. @Joe Martin Ep 6 shows exactly how we cut out the legacy parasites! 🎸⚡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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charliesurf 3 days ago
How does value for value help artists reach new audiences? Direct payments solve part of the problem, but discovery and sustainable income remain challenges.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Without the artist you have no art, the value for it would go directly to him instead of going to the middlemen...we have to reverse the idea how mainstream platforms and other entities stealing from the artists....bitcoin is doing this...Love and Blessings
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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If artists shape our culture and society, shouldn't they receive a fairer share of the value they create? Would you rather zap an artist directly in sats or let traditional platforms decide what their work is worth? 🧡
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Value for value is more than a payment model; it’s a shift in power. ⚡️ When artists connect directly with their audience, creativity gains independence and fans become active supporters, not just consumers. That’s the kind of internet worth building. 🎶
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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A troubadour in these modern times? How wonderful. Additionally Joe Martin is an independent man who sells merch for sats. I'm looking forward to this talk between Dion Wilson and that man from the Isle of Man. Did you already watch it?
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Space is going to need money and communication that work anywhere, with no bank in between. That’s why I’m betting on Bitcoin, the Lightning Network, relays and blockchain. I believe the new space economy will create millions of jobs, and that many will be paid in sats.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Music contents share's per-stream rates remain modest, and the economics are even tougher when compared with platforms like Apple Music, which generally offers more favorable payouts to artists. That's the reality the flip is up against.
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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The artist creates the value. The artist should receive the value. 🎶⚡ Bitcoin and Lightning are changing how we support independent musicians. No gatekeepers, no middlemen taking the lion's share—just fans supporting artists directly with sats. 🧡 Great to see @Joe Martin feat
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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This is more than interesting for musicians. Check this out and start to earn real money by yourself. In a world that wants rent us everything, supporting real artists in sats is the best thing you can do
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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Value for Value is truly revolutionizing how creators and audiences connect. Cutting out the middleman and allowing fans to support artists directly with sats completely changes the game for creator sovereignty and financial freedom. Great highlight from Ep 6 with Joe Martin! ⚡🎸
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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For a century, artists got paid last while labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value completely flips it. Love seeing how fans can pay the artist directly in sats now. Tuning in to @Joe Martin, Ep 6 via fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n! ⚡️
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For a century, artists got paid last. Labels, platforms, and middlemen ate first. Value for value flips it. The fan pays the artist. Directly. In sats. @Joe Martin, Ep 6. https://fanfares.io/s/xMLC9n
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