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then influencer economy must be held accountable. affiliate programs should end as it creates bad incentives.

Well said. Exactly.

Agreed. How?

Nobody despises the influencers more than me but this one wasn't on them.

call them out. face the shame. own it. the affiliate programs... stop sponsoring content. if the money is up for grabs it will be taken. this is no better than politicians in the house

Not just never again. We have to get it ALL back. Every sat. And I believe we will. I’ll predict now that the person responsible for this will be charged before 2026 is over. View quoted note →

I'm saying this for years, talking publicly with presentations and everything: everybody trusts that somebody else has independently checked the code. Remember when Proton announced their Bitcoin wallet and everybody was surprised Pikachu? The had the code public for over three months at that point but why would anyone have a look. If the bitcoiners need anything, it's no another hard or software wallet, black hoddies with Orang and white labels or conferences but a foundation that just looks at the code. Even the ethereum guys have had their Peckchield and Hacken, though that was another layer of the scamonion. Will anybody please think of the kids, I mean THE CODE?

This is an instance where I might get on board with an argument for making these specific coins “tainted” and unspendable. Seems contrary to the ethos of btc and money for enemies, but this shit pisses me off and disincentivizing black hat motherfuckers is important.

Yeah, either through negligence or ignorance, ColdCard wasn't doing what it was supposed to be doing. People blame the fact they weren't opensource as one of the reasons. I'm a huge FLOSS supporter, but this exact same thing happened to Debian with SSH in the early 2000s (I should write some longform about that). And the person exploting the bug to drain the wallets is a criminal, not an influencer.

Personal accountability not an issue then? If you sort your life based on some influencer fuckwit's advice then I have zero sympathy. I listen to some of them and get ideas, but I always cross check with multuple sources and adapt the final decision to suit my personal needs. The fact the influencer economy is so huge just indicates how utterly devoid of thinking skills most humans have become. irs quite depressing, but its actually what public educatuon systems are designed to produce - mindless worker drones. how long have email scams been around for now? yet at least once a month I'll see a story about some numpty losing a fortune to another one.

Because of a coffee change the path to utilize the hardware tRNG module was blocked and the software fell back to a shitty python library, but that never should have happened. This should have been written as a fail closed function, and when the hardware module didn't produce the entropy the device would have failed to generate a key. In that case it would have been identified in testing. They didn't write proper validation gates for their code. I'd say it's debatable how criminal it really is to simply guess a random number and sign a transaction on a public blockchain. Nothing was hacked and there was no unauthorized device intrusion. The keys were just easy to find in the number space. Possession of the private key is the only proof of ownership that exists in Bitcoin.

"And the person exploting the bug to drain the wallets is a criminal, not an influencer." True. But they have had a huge influence on how people approach self custody from now, so technically one of the bigger btc influencers operating at the moment

I believe that. I don't really care much about or follow what influencers say, but they tend to behave like vultures.

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I should say despicable. Criminal has a legal definition and you're right, he might not be a criminal. But he knows very well he didn't own the coins he drained.

Wow, I didn't expect to see him mentioned here. I first met him at a conference in New York, and that moment quietly became a real turning point for my household. Truly grateful; may he be richly blessed.

sure, but can you blame them? its a pretty easy gig - make a sermon once a week and preach from your YT pulpit. doesn't matter if you believe it or not, and AI will do 90% of the work now too. easy money. they're like the televangelists of the 90s. I doubt most of them even believed in God, but find a few lost sheep, tell them what they want to hear, and the money comes rolling in. nothing has changed. the best influencer profits are to be made in self-help bollocks or "how I made my first $1m" get-rich scams. a fool and his money are easily parted.

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Conventional concepts of ownership don't really apply to Bitcoin. It's just a list of messages signed with secret numbers. You can sign a new message with the old message if you have the correct secret number. The idea is the numbers are really big and hopefully impossible to guess. People ascribe concepts of materiality and ownership to these messages that aren't really true. You don't really even own the secret number. How can you own a number? You picked one at random and you hope nobody ever picks the same number.

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Yes this is more imortant I think

Paul Jon Siljee—you might want to look up the name. He's actually someone I work with as well.

We must also take responsibility. I’m guilty of being prideful, by sneering at the people using other hardware and software. I’m guilty of being complacent and recommending a way of custody that I didn’t use myself for my life savings just because everyone I trusted said it was secure and because it was accessible to normies who took bitcoin seriously. I’m guilty of sloth, not following up with those that I orange pilled to make sure they kept learning and improving their security. I’m guilty of greed, wanting to orange pill as many as I could so my own stack would become more valuable. And, now I’m guilty of wrath, almost uncontrollable anger at those responsible. Pray for me, but first and more importantly, pray for those who got hurt by this terrible tragedy.

We must act with looking for the same vulnerabilities and patch them. Also maybe buy goldbacks cause they can't tokenize it and you can DCA it.

Keep spreading the word many people still don’t know what is going on. This is my friend and he didn’t know about this until I told him this evening. Thank God he was able to move his stack .

thank you for your candor.

This is just a meme

Dude when I woke up and saw this thought it was a million stollen almost had my second heart attack in 2 days xD

Fucking tragedy. I was fortunate, but not all have been. Prayers to everyone hurt by this.🙏🏻

This is worse than FTX.

Heartbreaking!

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You picked a bad name to try to scam people here. Barely anyone will trust someone named Craig. At least do some research man. This is pathetic.

This is just horrible. How do we know that this bitcoin was sitting in CC-generated wallets? What trace does this leave on the blockchain? I have part of my stash still on a single sig Trezor and I’m also freaking out

Implement multi-sig wallets and cold storage for added security.

wrong context. affected people were doing their due diligence as best they could based off community knowledge and insights made available through influencers. theres barely any resources available on bitcoin other than the ones we make here. its the equivalent to someone who went to school, got a job, bought a house, got married and had kids finding out that no matter how hard they worked they're still not gonna make it in life. that all you really needed to do was be a degenerate and party with Epstein. bitcoins point of truth got buried by popularity and greed. you can't tell someone to take person responsibility when their baseline was false to begin with.

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ok. nothing to do with your original comment that influencers be accountable. as for "getting ahead in life" what does that even mean? ahead of what or who? if you're following the standard life structure as you've laid out then why would expect a different outcome to everybody else? again, its organizing your life based on what some fuckwit tells you, just a teacher in this case instead of a tik tok twat. want a different outcome, find a different path.

Frankly, what is possibility we doxx this fool and roll him?? Truthfully, no one else will come to save us and Bitcoiners just got attacked by an adversary. We must protect ourselves

"getting ahead in life" refers to the idea of an individual making forward progression in their life. that looked like this: go to school get a good job get married have children buy a home. forward progression based on standards that developed over the industrial age. so the fuckwits you speak of is the entirety of humanity throughout an age. hindsightd 20/20. were in the information age now. things change. humanity hasn't caught up yet. and no one knows where its going. its all frontier from here on out. bitcoin is a prime example. no one knows what the fuck to do with it. how it will affect pur lives. its a book were writing each and everyday. and that info is being shaped by influencers and corporate interests. a different out come, sure. what does that look like to you? what does that look like to families with children? to the elderly? to someone in their 20s? define it because they need some point of reference.

I know these are tough times for many. I know emotions can run high. Everyone will grieve and come to grips with their decisions -- but, it is important to remember, we all make our own decisions. We all extend trust, and make choices as to where we trust and to what extent. I also think it is important to remember that no one intentionally or purposefully made mistakes. So, at the end of the day, if there is exposure to Coldcard, forgive if you can -- both yourself and others. Forgiveness, and the live underlying it, make us stronger. View quoted note →

Well said!

I would not presume to define someone else's ideal outcome. someone wants a penthouse in NYC, another wants an offgrid homestead in the woods. the plan you've listed is for choosing a career at school, working for the qualifications, finding a job at a relevant company, buying a mcmansion in the suburbs, work the same gig for 40-odd years and retire with a gold watch and fuck all to show for your life. fine if thats all you want from life and it can be perfectly comfortable, but you'll onky ever be one disaster away from ruin. injury, health issue, whatever. to me, getting ahead means getting ahead of most people. not necessarily having more money or toys, but a more secure lifestyle and income that can withstand some ups and downs. that means doing things different, finding income streams, starting businesses, etc. sure the bitcoin book is being written, but all books are always being written. new tech changes things, ends some careers but creates new ones. AI is going to do that over the next few years and who knows where that will end up. nobody imagined where the internet would end up nack in the 90sm point is, anything is open to anyone with a bit of imagination and the balls to have a go. but if you simply follow the established system then you're relying on everyone else maintaining and agreeing it. the housing market relies on everyone following the standard career path for example, but when people decide they don't need a 4-bed, 2-bath, 2-car garage, souless shit box then everyone with their future wrapped up in it will be fucked.

sure, but imagination and having the courage to pursue it are two very different things. there's more sheep than shepherds. the plan I laid out isn't one of my own making. that was a natural societal shift.

indeed, most people are sheep. many have great ideas but not the fortitude, or often wherewithal, to follow through. AI has huge potential in this regard. things that would take a lot of time and money to develop can now be done quickly by people with minimal technical knowledge. write a book, build an app, make a movie, the potential is huge. as for the plan you've laid out though, I realise its not of your making. but are ypu sure it was a 'natural' societal shift and not an engineered one? the history and development of schools would suggest it was highly engineered