the discourse has shifted from accusing me of lying about saylor discouraging people from supporting open source devs to saylor being right for doing it
both cannot be true
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80IQ noderunner plebs > ODELL and SAYLOR combined....!!!
Note that both of them don't understand plebs' perspective.
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when did he deny it?
and if he didn’t do it then how was he right?
The real question is, why do you support developers merging spammer requests into core?
all the devs opensats supports are public
all grants are approved by a five of nine vote by our board
no single person has unilateral control of funds or grant decisions
Fan clubs suck
Billionaire fans is a glitch
I stand with @ODELL
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What kind of clown shoe would do this? It sounds like people need to stop worshiping a dude just because owns a lot of bitcoin and goes on TV a lot to talk about it.
When he addressed the incident around the time the allegations surfaced a year ago, I know he gave his opinion on dev funding in general on WBD with Peter a year ago.
According to him, he expressed his concerns about funding developers to Cathie and others, which is different than threatening them with being crushed by him, which is what you said happened.
All I’m saying is that your account of what happened in those conversations does not align with his account. I’m sure you can see why what you said steered a lot of controversy and drama, especially since there were no receipts or sources to back up the alleged threat.
Cool, so why don’t you actually answer the question?
Saylor’s opinion on dev funding 2:02:56
Many miss that Saylor is on Team Number-Go-Up.
I’ve never doubted that. I’ve never seen him claim otherwise.
There are many reasons to adopt Bitcoin. That’s just one reason, and that adopter easily misses the other reasons. I was guilty of that miss for years.
ENJOY 🫡🫶🏼
if your issue is simply my usage of the word ‘crush’ in the two posts i made on the topic then this is just a useless debate on semantics
if i could take that word back, i would, but i did not lie
i have operated in this space publicly for a decade, with max transparency, and i have never lied
i intentionally did not pass judgement in the two posts i made about the situation, my goal was simple, bring a closed discussion into the open
many people in the space knew what went down, nobody made it public before me because people knew there would be negative implications on their careers if they did
You are deflecting from the real controversy of being caught on Twitter
which devs does opensats support do you have an issue with?
So do you not support the merged pull request that increases the data carrier limit? You renoted a CTV encourager but a day after the data carrier limit change, do you not support that? I understand you like to position yourself as just a cog in the wheel of opensats, but I asked you about your position, because it’s obvious your opinion carries weight.
You’re obfuscating the discussion by talking about the defund the devs rhetoric, and ignoring the elephant in the room- why are the devs merging controversial pull requests and immediately moving on to the next topic like CTV, ignoring social consensus.
I suspect it’s because of the opinions of individuals who are paying the bills and have investments in projects that would be benefiting from such changes.
There, I put my cards down, now will you answer the question? I suspect not.
My issue is with the lack of proof for the allegation you made about Saylor threatening people if they funded devs.
People are allowed to have opinions, but threatening to crush others for disagreeing with him is a huge red flag. So naturally I want to know whether he did or did not threaten people. Did he?
It may seem like it’s just semantics, but in this case, it matters a lot which words were said. You didn’t lie about his feelings on developer funding, but you might have lied about what he would do to people that disagree with his opinion. That’s the part I cared about.
i was not in the meeting
my sources told me that he told them not do it, strongly
and they did not do it because they were worried about going against him
if you do not think there is business pressure to align with saylor in this industry then i do not know what to say except open your eyes
Thank you for expanding on what your source said. That’s all I was looking for.
I’m sure there are financial, social, and political reasons incentivizing people to align with Saylor and also to align with the other side.
I don't think you were lying, and at the time I said I rarely agree with Saylor, but he's basically correct that devs with bright ideas need to sit the fuck down before they do any more damage.
the reason opensats exists is because we diagnosed the corporate conflict of interest funding concern years ago
the answer is neutral orgs providing funding rather than relying solely on corporate interests
Bitcoin development is an attack on Bitcoin 🤪
To be honest I'd like it if more devs were funded that way - going off of who signed that statement from "Core" the other day, it looks to be unique to Chaincode labs all this group-think, spam-apologist idiocy that has infected everyone there.
It absolutely can be not that you care
THIS
> So do you not support the merged pull request that increases the data carrier limit?
i do not and have already said this multiple times lol
also i have no investments that benefit from spam on bitcoin, those are public too, because unlike the haters i actually practice what i preach
Watched this today as well. I feel like I understood what Michael Saylor is doing with MSTR and the whole world of institutional investors and what they can and can not do, a little better. It was only due to having read this note 👇🏻by @ODELL earlier today that I took a mental note that he put the #foss dev support discussion in the interview to the side for another time.
This was a good listen. 👍🏻
#studybitcoin #orangepill #btc #freedomtech #bitcoin
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don't listen to the noise makers and fuck Saylor. Do your thing.
... and who buys Bitcoin on credit.
Saylor was right.