We need more dtan.xyz

One sec I'm registering fuckyoumpaa.lol

YES #YESTR

I agree. I think it has a lot of potential as a media archive as well

@kinostr @Movie Archive

We certainly need to be able to sail the high seas. Too bad we have AWS, Cloudflare and another gatekeeper that starts with an H preventing that potentially.

Torrents still exist. Literally all you need is a file hash. There's this already, though I'm not sure if it's still working Dtan.xyz

We need a Nostr client that integrates bittorrent like the prowlarr, radarr, qbittorent workflow.

Incorrect grammar. Nostr IS becoming the go to place for internet privacy.

Nostr isn't private. Also, piracy 🏴‍☠️

You just want an excuse to wear a pirate shirt and carry a sword 🏴‍☠️

I was hoping that I’m not the only one that 🏴‍☠️🤣

@Movie Archive 🏴‍☠️👍

There is that.

Nostr is more private than any centralized alternative, it's just not absolutely private, which I don't know why its a metric anyway, since nothing really is on an ip based internet without a VPN, and even then, it barely is.

I'm not sure I see how Nostr is private. The point is to post things publicly and be uncensored. This conversation really has nothing to do with this note anyways, the commenter misread my note 😂

I know , but I just wanted to private it out, you can post things public and uncensored, yet be private in your identity. You can control how much you want the world to know about you, which is what privacy is.

Point it out*

Speak for yourself. Not all of us are hopeless consoomers who would piss our pants if we had to be responsible for our own lifestyle for five minutes. Why not stick to consuming media that's actually worth paying what is asked for? Or perhaps the bigger question: should we care about your excuses and pretend boundaries if your word only lasts for as long as it takes for you to find yet another way to extract free shit without any respect for the people who made it possible?

If someone goes to a lot of effort, yes. I don't think there is anything inherent to Nostr that is privacy preserving though. "Remember, relays can see what your Nostr client is requesting and downloading at all times. They can track what you see and see what you like. They can sell that information to the highest bidder, they can delete your content or content that a sponsor asked them to delete (like a negative review for instance) and they can censor you in any way they see fit. Before using any random free relay out there, make sure you trust its operator and you know its terms of service and privacy policies." View article → You need to work hard towards that, selecting reputable relays plus using Tor or a VPN, religiously removing metadata from any files you post, and making sure you never post anything that might lead back to you in the real world. One failure and it's ruined. This is no different than other social media, or the Internet in general really. It is also easy to mass collect notes. I run a WoT relay. It collects notes from ~60000 npubs on a 2 core VPS with 2GB RAM, and it's barely working to do that. I assume govt agencies are already doing the same, except with infinitely more hardware power, capturing every note that is posted. Using AI to correlate and scan, figuring out who is who. I would never recommend Nostr to someone on the basis of it being more private, as I feel I would be doing them a disservice. It has many ticks in the plus column, but I didn't think being inherently designed for privacy is one of them.

I've already retorted to Vitor's post but the stupid shit poster I am it's buried deep down, somewhere I can't find. A simple VPN can go a long way. Yes relays can track your metadata and can correlate it with your npub, but your npub doesn't need to have any information about you in the first place. For example I challenge any relay operator to find out who created any of the forms in the

Formstr

A decentralized forms application which lets you custody your own data made possible through the power of the nostr protocol.

global section. It is not possible. Claiming nostr isn't private is stupid. You are responsible for any data you give out, which is what privacy is about.

Exactly. It's up to the user, Nostr, without extra steps taken, isn't inherently private. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Nostr is literally the manifestation of a trustable privacy preserving tool, nothing like this exists for personal privacy, it is privacy without needing to trust, verifiable privacy, Can you still be stupid on it, ofcourse. But no other tool allows you to be this private, while communicating publicly. Saying nostr is not private is literally harmful to people who need privacy and now think that they have no other option than to trust a service that will eventually rug them.

The only alternate is TOR, but it's not clearnet, meaning it's not really "public". Also you can just as easily use nostr with TOR which only amplifies it's privacy benefits.

🥱 this conversation bores me. Maybe someone will want to talk to you about it in the note you posted. Have a good night 👋

Lol nice comeback 😂 I don't wish to bore you, I just wish people would stop spreading falsities, when it couldn't be farther from the truth.

For the gaming side of things, DDL exists, and I have to use that instead of torrents (plus, it's actually better in most cases for me due to bandwidth).

DDL does have the benefit of less bandwidth usage. Torrents have the benefit of bypassing the gatekeepers and being decentralized. Everything has it's tradeoffs. Some combination of web seeding with blossom servers plus some adapted torrent tech could be interesting, offering the best of both worlds.

Absolutely, but a deeper integration with Nostr could be cool. Get paid sats for seeding torrents, a Nostr twist on private trackers. Build an uncensorable distributed YouTube with streaming video based on torrents.

Maybe I should start adding torrents manually?

Aye

Agreed.

I consume media worth paying for... And I do it for free.

Have you checked out

DTAN.XYZ

Torrents on Nostr

I posted about it yesterday, and I posted one of the first torrents on it when it was announced. Sadly there have been no new torrents since April, and I tried several times yesterday to add new ones with no success. Dtan is (was?) a great idea, but is no different than current trackers, other than the torrents themselves being hosted on Nostr. Something that leverage Nostr and lightning could make for something more sustainable.

Yeah seems like torrents are a vastly unexplored topic on nostr thus far, probably a lot of cool things we can build on top of bitcoin, bittorrent and nostr.

Nobody believes you. You have no standards. If you believed that the media you consume deserved any money at all then you'd actually pay something for it. Instead you're out here getting trashy content out of a dumpster just because your life is completely devoid of any alternative value. You should try being responsible for the things you enjoy in your life.

Nostr would be better off being synonymous with piracy rather than bitcoin(twitter). What are some nostr projects being worked on like this and adjacenty stuff? Dtan.xyz is the only one I know of. No idea if that is still being worked on tho. Also not a fed. #asknostr

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yesss and i want a nostr plugin for jellyfin so i can share my library based with nostriches

It was my attempt at being clever. As far as privacy and visibility. If nothing is truly private the best we can do is to lean into low visibility protocols.

Yeah, a private torrent tracker with npub login would be a winner.