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Just enable BIP110. Wipe the garbage. And move forward.
Mr Flopp here is worried about his seed investment in Citrea becoming damaged. 💩
I thought I'd try out X. I lasted only a couple of weeks. That place gives me a really bad opinion of humanity.
Its really is. The worse possible platform for any discussions about bitcoin.
Time for you to switch teams like you did during blocksize wars. Lopp is the guy who dresses up in women's clothing to get on a lifeboat when the ship is sinking.
#BIP110 is coming for you
It’s all so gay.
Not at all, it's a rounding error in my portfolio.
And Naka as well.
Do Casa clients have to do anything, asking for a friend
Nope
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Deleted X yesterday, needed a detox. Getting too retarded.
Dumpster fire—that’s perfect! But what to call our ZOG now? 🤔
I assume all of the miner support is just hiding until the last minute, right?
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You are free to assume whatever you like.
Exactly!
If this keep up they might hit 1% by activation day.
sit and watch ;)
No thank you
Dumpster fire, wicker man...
Got any fun jpegs to throw on their chain on August 7?
Meanwhile...I'm sure Kratter and Mechanic are doing just fine on all the ad revenue coming in. And of course, failure is their optimal case, because if they succeed they're less likely to get as many ad views going forward than they will for their next attempt.
It's never been about Bitcoin; it's 100% about ego.
They'll need to mine a block to throw jpegs on their chain.
It’s fatiguing and a total distraction.
I wish those people would focus on bitcoin to the 99.999% of people out there who have zero interest in btc.
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Doubtful. Last I checked, Kratter's viewership has plunged over the past year as folks tired of his whining.
That's Knotzi copium for sure. Hash ain't coming.
Its coming because Bitcoin is more valuable without spam and without Citrea's shitcoin.
Speaks to his principles eh?
That's good to hear. I can't bring myself to open his channel, but he's been getting platformed on other shows and keeps polluting my twitter feed, so I assumed he was getting more attention.
I do at least expect that even he and mechanic are getting more revenue, that they're paying more of it for rented hash anyway. This signaling period they may even get to 1% of the blocks!
Just 50% more to go and they'll have a chance on 8/7... 😄
Oh it's a place to fight and talk shit. That's it.
If that's not what you want it's definitely not for you.
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And yea Mechanic fails to take the matter of merchant nodes into consideration.
Miners have 0 reason to support this shit. And the plebs have 0.8% of the resources to overrule them.
If you think Bitcoin as money can't win in a free market fight for block space against spam you're as much of a bear as Peter Schiff.
Ordinals already went under Runes will go in time as well, but it'll take longer as they are cheaper (and 110 compliant).
Block space isn't yours to dole out or gatekeep. Regardless of Luke's Vision.
the free market for spam is called the miner fee, and spam is clearly winning
Clearly. Hence why ord.io shut down, and blocks are so empty you can get in next block for a few sats, and get mined for 0.13 sats/vbyte.
Definitely an existential crisis.
We have a blocksize cap. Spam isn't crowding out shit. Blockspace just isn't being used much.
Unless of course the mere existence of full blocks offends you. We should definitely work on making sure nobody uses bitcoin at all to keep the chain smaller.
BCH proved us all wrong this way by having a chain 1/3 our size...
Spam is the shit that devalues Bitcoin. Bitcoiners and Bitcoin miners have all the reasons in the world to run BIP110.
BitcoinIsFuture
Spam is the shit that devalues Bitcoin. Bitcoiners and Bitcoin miners have all the reasons in the world to run BIP110.
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Are there even double digits bitcoin core devs active on nostr?
Spam pays less than 1% but it devalues Bitcoin heavily. Miners, if they are completely self-serving, prefer valuable Bitcoin.
We have see worthless chains full of arbitrary data like BCH and BSV. Bitcoin miners don't want that.
Neither Bitcoin miners nor Bitcoiners want Bitcoin to become Ethereum 2.0 as envisioned by Citrea and their shitcoin on top of Bitcoin.
Bitcoin worked for 15 years with OP_RETURN of 80 Bytes.
BIP-110 is a beautiful and simple solution that limits the big data spam abuse.
All monetary transactions continue to work as intended.
Core V30 is an attack on Bitcoin that solves nothing but only allows more spam on Bitcoin. BIP-110 fixes this.
bch has adjustable blocks like monero which i think is a way better model for onchain fees since bitcoin was always supposed to bee about millions of people using it as p2p cash and fees eventually replacing the diminishing block reward, and in monero's case we have a tail emission so miners arent even dependent on fees, and also helps with velocity of money as opposed to a finite 21 million which encourages hoarding and discourages uses as p2p cash, basically nobody really uses btc, and custodial zaps of 21 sats don't count. The only time bitcoin ever ssees any meanigful onchain use is with things like ordinals when the throttled epstein developers refuse to increase blocksize with demand like satoshi instructed. the wet dream bitcoiners haave that somehow nation states will use btc for settlement and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a transaction is completely retarded. anything producing L1 fees for miners should be prioritized in everyway before they decidde attacking the chain is more profitable or just abaandon btc and pivot to ai. it's a permissionless netwoprk, being a faggot about how people try to permissionlessly use it is gay and retarded.
why would a nation state use btc for a traceable immutable record of their tx and pay like 200k usd to do so? they could just use xmr be private and pay pennies
does monero have enough liquidity for big ass transactions?
I'm from btc world but I'm looking at bch now. Seems like all upgrades thus far, and they're already thinking about the end-game in terms of funding the miners through transaction fees. But even bch still has a long way to go in terms of scaling. A layer 2 might actually be necessary to handle the endless, constant transactions made by programs and agents.

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Add BIP-110 compatible envelope parser by lifofifoX · Pull Request #4545 · ordinals/ord
BIP-110 disables OP_IF and OP_NOTIF in tapscript and limits data pushes to 256 bytes.
This PR adds an alternative inscription envelope: a bare prot...
I imagine then that you're really not gonna love hearing that this happened.
Because of course it did. Because the way to address spam on a decentralized permissionless network is with proof of work. If more people used Bitcoin as money, blockspace's cost would go up, and spam would be a lot less economical.
For the time being, it's here, whether or not people feel like 51% attacking Bitcoin.
BCH adopting a layered model and having smaller blocks in Bitcoin than practice would certainly be some pretty peak irony. Especially while "bitcoiners" lose their minds about how we need to protect layer 1 space.
Fees continue to work in addition to Bitcoin Knots filters and BIP 110.
For 1000th time BIP 110 limits big data spam abuse.
The state needs certain things to be transparent.
Yeah, well, BTCers are obsessed with full nodes (not miners) when those actually don't do that much. All they do is transmit mined blocks. If your node, ignores certain blocks. It's as if it's not there. I've heard that the only full nodes that really matter are the ones that are actually used for lots of transactions. If those started ignoring blocks, it would be a bigger deal. Even then, I'm not sure why they matter. I'm pretty sure miners matter a million times more than full nodes. So grab yourself one of those lottery ASICs lol.
Your node is primarily useful to verify your transactions and to transmit your transactions.
If all you're doing is transacting on chain, there's not a ton of reason not to prune.
A lot of people think nodes are ballots. Those people are going to slam into reality in 1 month and 4 days.
Archival nodes are required for some applications though. And yes, they are more helpful in letting new nodes bootstrap.
Also, miners don't matter unless they're generating blocks.
Fees indeed remain the only useful method. Though it is true that you have less arbitrary data and more op codes for the spam.
Not sure why anyone would find that better though. Blocks still just as full, if not more.
Maybe try repeating it 9000 more times though. Huxley tells us that 10,000 repetitions = 1 truth.
Agreed. But what happens in a month and four days?
BIP-110 mandatory signalling block height hits in the early morning. And is expected to cause a lot of very loud people to suddenly find out that they're no longer Bitcoiners.
You can watch the failure fairly well through this dashboard as it approaches:
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Wait they're trying to fork? Like hard fork? I'm not following. I don't understand your use of "signaling".
They're doing a soft fork. But it's a minority soft fork and they're right now getting less than 1% of blocks per signaling period.
If they get 51% of the hashrate they can pull Bitcoin along with their 'upgrade.'
Otherwise their chain splits off because they throw away the blocks in the heaviest chain due to the rules of their BIP.
Some do seem to not recognize this is how soft forks work believing that only hard forks cause chainsplits. So indeed some will be quite surprised.
Others just believe that miners will have an 11th hour capitulation to avoid having blocks thrown out. But as far as I can tell miners couldn't care less about these non-merchant (aka non-economic) nodes.
you guys should just stop being retards and let the fee market for blockspace decide. People making runes/ordinals aka "spam" are paying for their blockspace with consensus valid transactions, and miners are earning a fee, unlike from you hodl faggots that don't want to use your so-called magic internet money as actual money and spend it to create onchain fees. even when you retards do spend you do it on lightning, most likely custodially and let these parasite centralized services cannibalize the fees and undermine bitcoin's security assumptions.