most people don't donate their time and efforts for free, for extended periods of time. everything in this world has a cost. developers and infrastructure operators of nostr are no different here. zap the devs and congratulate them when they receive funding too. when they succeed, we succeed.
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this and bitcoin are the 2 things i need to succeed. ive tried too many other things that didnt π π π
is there a list you can share, would love to contribute
my man @QW has a list, but you can also visit nostrapps.com and Zap them from there.
take this grain of salt.
appealing to moral is wierd.
I'd encourage devs to be more aggressive about monitization of their work.
Not possible yet? Well, then the value is still not here.
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I think wanting something for nothing is weird. This is where value for value comes into play, but it's not widely understood or used.
Infrastructure operators get 0. It's a shame, because without infrastructure operators, there would be no nostr.
If the ordinary pleb has a choice to pay or not to pay it would be strange to choose to pay.
I'm quite sure that some will earn pile of sats on nostr. They invest and speculate.
Basing their existence on moral doesn't seem like a viable approach.
if it make any sense ...
Do you have a list handy?
So how does Nostr keep running for decades to come without a meaningful revenue source? V4V is nice, but it's yet to be proven to provide meaningful liquidity to support large infrastructure
What is free? There is no free because time is an opportunity cost. If one can leverage their time to their advantage then it might benefit them to do it for free.
Remember when a dev would post pictures of being out having dinner or drinks & everyone would zap it? I would love to see something like that revived. Those kind of actions make it clear to observers (aka newbs) that this is, currently, a mostly volunteer & motive driven movement... and it shows the people volunteering their time & talent that their efforts are appreciated. Whether working towards a sellable product, a donation funded free-to-use product, or building something that others can utilize with no expectation, it's still early. The better everything works, the easier it is to forget that.
Real decentralization like #bitcoin donβt need tips or any stuff besides itβs own economic incentives to get miners and node operators working. #Ethereum guys seems to have got this from the start but #nostr still not.
Implements real decentralization on #nostr and people will get involved in order to create value.
#Devlist
Pablo @PABLOF7z
Cameri @Cameriπ¦βπ₯
Mike Dilger @Mike Dilger βοΈ
Will @jb55
Fiat Jaf @fiatjaf
Kieran
@Kieran
Calle
@calle
Vitor
@Vitor Pamplona
Hodlbod
@hodlbod
Koala Sat
@KoalaSat
Martti Malmi
@Sirius
Henry
@npub1xv6a...xea6
Ben
@ben
Rock
@Rock
Roberto
@Roberto
Iefan
@iefan ποΈ
Semisol
@semisol
RooSoft
@RooSoft
Vivek
@Vivek
Brugeman
@brugeman
Miljan
@miljan
Zach Meyers
@Zach
Nostr Build
@nostr.build
Terry Yu
@Terry Yiu
Rockstar
@UNCLE ROCKSTAR
Rabble
@rabble
Matt Lorentz
@Matt Lorentz
Vivek
@Vivek
Stuart Bowman
@Stuart Bowman
Fishcake
@The Fishcake (nostr.build)
Jeff G
@JeffG
Karnage
@HoloKat
Tijl
@Tijl
Santos
@npub1kkum...gewf
Dread
@npub1u0uc...rrgt
hzrd149
@hzrd149
Super Testnet
@Super Testnet
Npub.pro Def deserves some zaps to devs
Ethereum isn't decentralized.
I miss those interactions too. Much better than the complaining I see now.
And Daniele for bridging Nostr/Nos to X, I made note of it.
Economies of scale. We need to hit a certain number of users. I don't know what that number is, but at some point we're going to reach a number of users where different revenue models are sustainable. We aren't there yet.
a wonderful list
already was following everyone i meant to except 3 & now that is remedied
thank you @QW π«
This is true. Iβve recently had to depart from a community as an activist. I spend time here to be exposed to more skilled people and to draw influence from it in the meantime. Iβve learned a lot about cryptography and software engineering here and Iβm happy to see people succeed and provide technical opportunities for folks like me to learn from.
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More crowdfunding (pre-development) and subscriptions (post development) needed.
More for #devlist #grownostr
@Katie
@BitKarrot
@Ava
@Laeserin
@yr
@polly
@MK_Fain
The QW Rolodex
Same idea of #nostr just different coins.
Ethereum has its benevolent dictator Vitalik.
Nostr has its benevolent dictator jack.
Still Vitalik is not battle tested while jack had been tested at Twitter.
Thanks Derek for posting this. Do I count as a Dev?
Absolutely
ouch
Let's add @sandwich to that list :D he built https://nostr.watch
poor nostr.watch, no love. Shame too, especially considering this: 

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A proper OG project! Appreciate your work on nostr.watch π€