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We're all #Winning with #Bitcoin now and will continue to do so in the #Future those are the facts. Great note 👏 Fren
To be fair, I really do like this vision for Ethereum -- this goes to the DAO concept, which dates all the way back to the early cypherpunk days. But there are significant headwinds here....
The first that should be mentioned is the fact that there have been no real successful implementations of a DAO with any real economic value, by which I mean an actually, functionally autonomous (that's the "A") corporation or entity living on the Blockchain. The titular "DAO" that failed back in the 2010's and caused the split between Eth and Eth classic was a sort of attempt at this... but the problem goes deeper....
The real issue is the fundamental ways in which ownership is constructed in modern society. The "Eth bros", the entire VC world, essentially relies on the State to validate ownership. Thus there is a fundamental conflict between an entity or corporation that "owns itself" on the Blockchain and an actual (real-world) company that could have shareholders, investors, owners, & etc in the meat-world. So this is a situation where one system must dominate; either the Fiat or the Blockchain. Your traditional wealth, your Big houses, your Lambos, all require Fiat to ultimately be the "value base layer."
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
💩Ethereum💩 is centralized manipulatable POS slavery scam.
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The stupidity of shitcoiners is repulsive. Shitcoiners are not only stupid, they are slaves. 💩💩ETH💩💩, like all the rest of the shitcoins, is centralized disgusting manipulatable slavery scam.
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MikeMonty 3 months ago
lol we were shitting on eth and Xrp in the YouTube chat during the livestream.
Who said ethereum is a money? It is a platform, an asset. There is no limited amount, a foundatiin behind it, and so on. Not money, but it has value, and the reason for that is different. So is it a scam? No way. Can't be compared to bitcoin in this manner. It's worthless to judge ethereum so summarily.
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karlo 3 months ago
1/ I’m pro-Bitcoin. But let’s be honest: network effects are the strongest force in money and platforms—and they can shift. 2/ In 2004, almost no one could forecast Facebook’s eventual dominance. Likewise, we can’t predict how Bitcoin vs. Ethereum network effects will evolve with high confidence. 3/ Different design bets shape those effects: • Bitcoin: minimal surface area, monetary credibility, slow/rare changes (“ossification”). • Ethereum: programmability + faster upgrade cadence (L2s, account models, hard forks). Both attract users/devs for different reasons. 4/ Quantum risk (today): big, fault-tolerant quantum computers would threaten current signature schemes. – Bitcoin: secp256k1 (ECDSA) for transactions. – Ethereum: most accounts use secp256k1; validators use BLS12-381. None of these are quantum-safe. 5/ Path to mitigation: migrate to post-quantum signatures (e.g., lattice or hash-based). Coordination is the bottleneck, not math. Systems with more centralized/streamlined governance can usually ship such upgrades faster; highly decentralized systems move slower by design. That’s a real trade-off, not a value judgment. 6/ I still favor Bitcoin for monetary neutrality and resilience. But network effects are dynamic, and upgrade agility vs. governance risk is the core tension. Anyone claiming certainty about the end state is overconfident.
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Publius Pseudis 3 months ago
Ethereum is a scam. Bitcoin will be the world reserve currency. The currency used by AI.
Kaspa is a centralized company coin. It has foundation, marketing team, ceo, etc. It’s a fundamentally different thing than Bitcoin. Don’t be distracted by lies. There will only be 1 digital cash, it’s Bitcoin.
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Tom Elton 3 months ago
I have never had the time but wish I could study what ETH structures look like once it left PoW.
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WildBill 3 months ago
Literally none of that is true. You realize that don’t you? You’re just repeating what Bitcoin University said. You don’t actually know what you’re saying, so you? Who is the foundation? And the marketing team?
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WildBill 3 months ago
It’s an open-sourced protocol man. You can go build on it if you know how. That’s not centralized. Who is the CEO? Haha. You’re making claims you can’t substantiate.
It’s really insane how there’s smart people who still don’t get it. Make me Wonder if it’ll ever get better. I mean I get why Tom Lee is doing it. He saw the opportunity with eth treasuries co to dump mnav on people so now he has to lie through his teeth and act like eth will outperform. Sadly it all comes down to money
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WildBill 3 months ago
That’s real objective man. You dug hard for that one.
i still don’t. know what etheruem is, and i still don’t care enough to find out. bitcoin is more than enough for me, i don’t understand how anyone has any capacity for anything other than bitcoin. how is bitcoin not so large, and monumental by its self, why so much bullshit? Something I will never understand.
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WildBill 3 months ago
Kratter is an idiot and it saddens me you just parrot what you hear from him. Learn to think for yourself.
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WildBill 3 months ago
Just go back and read your initial reply. Swallow your pride and realize you didn’t check anything out that you said. You just watched Kratter ramble like an idiot And the parroted it. You need to do both: stack sats and stay humble. Learn to critically think. Do better.
I used to mine Kaspa before I realized what Bitcoin actually was. The dev team is centralized just like bcore today and living founder etc- I stand by my statement. Let’s compare notes in a few years.
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₿illy 3 months ago
What utility? Honest question. Point me towards an example of someone using it
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₿illy 3 months ago
His whole video from Monday was great
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Rycarl Jorhane 3 months ago
I'm pro bitcoin.Till the day I die.And I'm all in with all these power-back-to-the-people...nobody-can-stop-it consensus mechanism...powerful- cryptography-and-hard-to-break mathematically-designed layer of security creation trait that bitcoin has etc.But let's be real.When we talked about ' money '...it means ...the participation of 8 billion people around the world using it as a medium of exchange for goods and services.Presently...are 8 billion people around the world using bitcoin as a medium of exchange for goods and services or aren't they? If not...then why's the value so high and where does it come from? That's right. Bitcoin's value is still based on ' fiat-ponzi-scheme ' that's being sadly manipulated by BlackRock in the market place.So is bitcoin a scam ? Let the people decide for themselves.For me..bitcoin's creation is not a scam but what is happening to it right now...is.
I'm no expert as I'm more of a Monero guy, but ETH is used in tokenized stocks and DeFi platforms. Also, BlackRock and Robinhood are building on Ethereum for their financial services and operations.
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npcuser 3 months ago
but Eth just broke its previous ATH!
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WildBill 3 months ago
We know who the dev team is and it is a limited number at this time. We don’t know that Satoshi is dead, but he did say he was moving on to other things. I have no problem with a living dev selflessly fair-launching a revolutionary tech (and I think a blockDAG scaling at 10bps, currently, inside an open source POW protocol is that).
Monero = Fully Private and Free Coin not associated with billionaires, politicians and banksters....no KYC. Your best bet for the future.
Ethereum is centralised, Bitcoin is decentralised. Ethereum is a security, bitcoin is a commodity. Etherium is a con imo
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.Org Academy 3 months ago
There is always some who supply BTC for something. It could be to hold some ETH.
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BTC-Satan 3 months ago
Mr. Mallers, others, explain to me how the Bitcoin Core Dev Team does not represent a MASSIVE form of counter party risk. Ruminating on the OP_RETURN thingy dingy ... I'm literally contemplating selling everything and just walking away. This Bitcoin has become so interpersonal , I want to scrub myself with a wire brush in an acid bath for an hour.