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NVK likes to buy domain names 🤔
Nostriches could fund a wallet to finance the purchase of domains for seedsigner to use. Would this help to tackle the issue?
what's your honest oppinion on the attacks listed?
Hmm.
We all know who did it.
Though many influencers can’t say who did it because they have been forced to sign non-disparagement agreements in exchange for 💰
Dude laughs at his customers too.
@ODELL get your mans in line bruh.
NVK owner of Coldcard throwing tantrums.
No, the issue is people still promote coinkite even though their founders are shady AF.
Ball n chain man
Why does seedsigner.org point to bitkey?
NVK trying to instigate drama and conflict?
NVK back on his bullshit. If you believe in FOSS know that any money you give coldcard is likely to be used to harass FOSS devs.
Also CC isn't FOSS, he closed the open source code he stole. That's right stole. If you close code that was open to try to line your own pockets that is stealing from the open source community.
SeedSigner ("the man")
Several people have reached out about this. There are apparently at least 10 URLs that were purchased on 5 separate days over a period of 3.5 years, all appear to have the same owner. Some of them seem intended to interfere with our ability to fundraise or accept donations? I honestly could see this sort of thing as a one-off or as a mean joke if you're having a bad day, but the pattern here comes across as something different. Given how many podcasts and conferences his sponsorships touch it feels like behaving this way towards a FOSS project should be a bigger deal? If Nostr is indeed legit with regard to wanting open source to flourish, it seems like this would be of interest here especially.
SeedSigner ("the man")
Several people have reached out about this. There are apparently at least 10 URLs that were purchased on 5 separate days over a period of 3.5 years, all appear to have the same owner. Some of them seem intended to interfere with our ability to fundraise or accept donations? I honestly could see this sort of thing as a one-off or as a mean joke if you're having a bad day, but the pattern here comes across as something different. Given how many podcasts and conferences his sponsorships touch it feels like behaving this way towards a FOSS project should be a bigger deal? If Nostr is indeed legit with regard to wanting open source to flourish, it seems like this would be of interest here especially.
Apparently, seedsigner is directly over the target?
Appears to redirect to bitkey privacy notice site now
i don't think it's gonna be anything specifically malicious. it's just plain old domain squatting. "oh it's a different name, but maybe they will pay us to transfer it to them"
malicious in the sense that they are making a calculated guess that a unique name that isn't registered that has some registered might be rich and then they will not care to spend $500 to nail down this one which isn't as ideal but ok.
the monopoly on TLD is the suck. you sholud be seedsigner. as in like www.seedsigner.
Bitch ass behavior like what is being done here to seed signer, is a good reason to put certain hardware on your personal blacklist.
SeedSigner ("the man")
Several people have reached out about this. There are apparently at least 10 URLs that were purchased on 5 separate days over a period of 3.5 years, all appear to have the same owner. Some of them seem intended to interfere with our ability to fundraise or accept donations? I honestly could see this sort of thing as a one-off or as a mean joke if you're having a bad day, but the pattern here comes across as something different. Given how many podcasts and conferences his sponsorships touch it feels like behaving this way towards a FOSS project should be a bigger deal? If Nostr is indeed legit with regard to wanting open source to flourish, it seems like this would be of interest here especially.
it was registered 8 months after SeedSigner the project and intentionally redirected to a fearmongering site
That’s new. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The way he handled the other block clock alt was telling of how much of a douche he really is and a threat actor against FOSS.
Free money isn't free
a malicious insider. spooks and their ghouls are everywhere.
I think you mean NVK.
by which i mean, that motherfucker is a vampire
also, here is my surprised face, what a piece of shit
i strongly suspect that more than a few of the assholes i hate in the rockstar brigade are in a conspiracy. this just shows how far back it goes
i am a #ragecoder and i write code to fuck these cunts shit up
Haha you get it 💪
If you criticize ColdCard for being source viewable and not FOSS, NVK will call you a communist. I think that’s the first time in my life anyone has accused me of being communist 😂
_IF_
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 owns any of those domains, I’m sure he’d redirect to wherever the “real” destination should be if the SS dev team asked (or transfer control of domain name). But I’m not convinced redirection destination is proof of ownership (it’s just suspicious, not proof).
instant follow, my spidey sense never fails me and i see the pattern here
Get yourself an .i2p address and say fuck you to the DNS.
I think it's worth recording and timestamping the`whois` reports for these domains today. Many were updated -- within minutes or hours of each other. It feels like they're all controlled by the same decision maker. If you don't timestamp these as they are right now, will lose that this activity occurred in response to this post since someone can decide to update later in a less suspicious manner.
It redirects to bitkey.world for me
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For those asking, the redirects are changing now, possibly as a result of this information being made public.
Nostr is about freedom. You are free to purchase domains too, even redirect them.
@SeedSigner
@Djuri BTClock
@Foundation
Should all do some epic collaboration.
So much open source freedom tech that the wanna be gatekeeper cucks won’t be able to do anything but bow down and beg to lick their boots.
What are you referring to?
just because something is a 'good business' decision, doesnt mean you cant look like a petty tool while doing it.
He wouldn't because he's a cunt.
Honestly all seems above board to me. Someone disagrees with seedsigner and is purchasing domains to make this known. Free market purchase of domains, and freedom of speech. Although the way the decided to go about communicating their disagreement was pretty inventive I would say and obviously antagonistic. Nothing wrong with antagonism though. Let the best ideas win.
it's one thing to criticize a concept but it just sucks from an ethical standpoint to keep fighting a project that has good intentions, innovation and just a good and honest product. it feels like skepticism has turned into real dislike and dissatisfaction over the years
Feels like he hates competition, and hates that something might be more accessible and less expensive and more secure than his overpriced calculator.
Cowards
So strange. Whoever is doing this must be obsessed with slowing the progress of the seed signer project. But I''m not sure how effective it is, if at all.
take it as a compliment
@stache did you see this? Plus the clock maker owes us sats 😳🤨🙄
@NVK does not act honorably. Shame is hard to live with.
Who said anything about business decisions, or people not looking like tools?
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NVK vs BTClock note from 8 months ago. More of the same.
can't explain it, but nvk creeps me out
I haven’t seen it til now😳🤌🏽
…as for the clockmaker I’d rather have a satslink but if it ain’t coming I guess I could take it in Tapsigner credits…I’ve got all the cold card q’s I want and over a dozen tapsigners….i guess I could get more and give them to frenz and my kids to use as some of the keys in their multisigs😳🤨😖
I’ve recently become a fan of the foundation cores (got multiple) and I’m really interested in the foundation prime. It seems like it’s
@Foundation doing the innovating these days🫡…maybe they’ll develop a product to mimic the failed satslink from
@npub12ctj...c5ky (let’s see who the real innovators are boyz!!!!!)🤷🏽♂️🌅
…this is my challenge to
@Foundation … now that yall have the edge in innovation finish the competition and develop foundations version of the satslink ….apparently it’s a heavy lift but u fellas are crushing it the last coupla years🫡🤯🫂
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 @ODELL VC BROS MAD?
the state of .i2p addresses isn't that great. you own your b32.i2p address, but if you want a vanity i2p address you basically go to a registrar and ask for them to pretty please add it to a text file. it's first come first served, and they selectively mirror each other. you don't own it and there's nothing stopping a registrar from pointing it at something else. they may also drop it at their own discretion for made up reasons like if the contents of your eepsite are "overtly offensive." the obvious solution would be to just do the associations on a blockchain thing but this hasn't been built out yet.
Funny, hanging around Nostr for a while, you learn who the douchebags of the space are. That’s a quick unfollow for
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 and a hard refrain from buying any coinkite products.
Who needs these addresses? Why is he doing this?
Well 2Pac’s politics were socialist
I’m hoping Marty and Odell will talk about this in RHR
Odell does, but given his PoW I don’t it’s him.
I was a different nym on twitter so he couldn’t have been using that as a frame
👎 shame on
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 &
@ODELL credibility at stake without firm reaction
View quoted note →They already did, there was something about "seed signer tRoLl mAfiA" in the last
@RABBIT HOLE RECAP episode.
Time to SPEAK CLEARLY again
@ODELL, can't hear the signal in all that noise anymore.
While I suppose anything is possible, this is not the
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 I know. It is a smart business move, sure, but he’s not a dick. If someone’s getting legit hurt i can’t imagine he’s gonna persist…but until the right person asks the right person, who are we to trash talk one of the prime movers in the bitcoin security space? Don’t get me wrong, I most certainly do not believe in hero worship whatsoever, but I don’t just assume someone who has done a great service to the community is a dick just because he is smart and successful.
imagine your declining selling numbers are reflecting your mental state.
View quoted note →Or to cia.gov
funny not funny.
I meant more in regards to what they were doing to seedsigner. But yeah curious to see what the competition does. Would be better if the sats weren’t tied in to the credit
🤦🏽♂️🤌🏽😂
When I read ur text my dyslexic tarded *ss saw seed vault and I mentally went to the foundation devices 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️….they really have become my favs
…I have a group of frenz Ive helped initiate their BTC journey who own fairly large sums of BTC and I’ve found myself recommending the foundation products with a few cold card tapsigners for multisig storage (makes geographic dispersion easy) thru sparrow and or nunchuck
The seed signer tech is fascinating but I will be following people with stronger tech backgrounds (like my fav quant) before I dip my toe into it. 🫡🫂
Also is there some credible info out there that coinkite is involved in this?
Or just speculation?
This is a valid point. Another way of looking at it is who else benefits from this and who else was very vocal against seedsigner? All valid questions to ask imo
I don’t know the seed signer dev or nvk personally so I wouldn’t be able to answer this.
I have strong evidence that links Coinkite and/or NVK as the definitive owners of the domain names.
There are also domains they own relating to other projects, and name-squatting attempts at Nostr and Bitcoin related domains.
Oh I wasn’t advocating for either one. Though I am very interested in what foundation is doing. It’s just not the first time I’ve heard things like these.
@stache Semi seems to know more about this
No doubt …I’m not jumping in to defend Nvk…he has clearly created animosity among some of his peers…still it’d be nice to see a smoking gun on this particular issue
I think coinkite products will suffer due to inferior quality and lack of consistent innovation compared to products like those produced by
@Foundation even without vilifying nvk…seems like the abandoned @satslink was the beginning of the end for their innovative cycle…just one idgit’s opinion🤷🏽♂️
Man, you really like sniffing NVK's farts, don't you? He is well documented being antagonistic towards foss projects and seed Signer in particular. If you're head is so far up your own ass, you can't see that. I guess that's your own problem and not mine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
🫡🫂
GM btw my fren🫂🌅
Do you have a timestamp for this in the episode?
That satslink thing is crazy to me. “It’s on the bench”. I don’t know man. Do all the marketing. Show a bit of demos and then leave the customer hanging for years. Weak
GM Stache friend 🫂
Yup…my conspiratorial mind went to govt intervention behind the scenes…it seemed like such a great idea…I’d actually ordered 2 of them🤦🏽♂️⭕️
I appreciate that the good Dr. would want to give a friend the benefit of the doubt, but at some point the evidence adds up.
There’s enough that I believe would link to him.
But we will get concrete evidence soon enough.
I’ll think twice before giving him sats. Keep in mind this wasn’t a payment in fiat. Sats in advance. It’s appreciating but you still get the purchasing power of the fiat amount 2 years ago. That’s gonna leave a sour taste for a while.
Man he’s got you fooled. Just follow the breadcrumbs. Foundation. The truly FOSS blockclock. And for years he’s been openly bashing Seedsigner (the person and the project). Those are just a few.
Those sats are probably word 1.7-2x the amount when we gave him the deposit.
I definitely understand wanting to give someone the benefit of the doubt....but at this point It just feels like willful ignorance.
RHR #367, around 1h18min
Agreed🤌🏽
And best I can tell we have a store credit not a refund🤷🏽♂️
No refund on sats 🥲
Should have given a deposit with a cc
consider pkarr and pkdns
what is he doing on the board of opensats then, which is specifically to help open source devs and projects?
This is a completely fair question. Some people really, really do not like it being asked, but based upon his personal behavior and the stated goal of the organization, this is an entirely fair question to be asking.
Ask him I’m just saying what happened when I criticized ColdCard for not being FOSS. Maybe he likes others to use open source so he can fork the code and close source it ?
No answer, retard?
Now there is nvk.wtf as well 😁
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🫂
seedsigner living rent free.
so, this dude literally performs a psywar attack on an open source DIY project guy, as a commercial operator, and then brags about how the target "didn't know". yeah, wow, bravo *golf clap* what a brave and credible software and hardware developer we have here.
jesus fucking christ this guy is a straight up psycho
he stands on the shoulders of the devs he hired and years of trezor code that he forked then removed any attribution
“I am what I say you are”
no words.
he then bitches at
@Foundation for forking their code which they could, then changing the license *and lying about it being OSS*
before this coinkite was a crypto bank and payments processor.
The smoking gun is him taking market share through FOSS and then licensing up once critical mass was achieved.
I CAN EXPLAIN IT,
@DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 IS SUCH A CHRONIC MASTURBATOR THAT HE SUBCONSCIOUSLY COPIED THE PORN HUB LOGO FOR HIS PODCAST! 🤣🤡 #LOSING
HE TOOK THE DEPOSIT MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT AND RETURNED IT AS STORE CREDIT AFTER HE FAILED TO DELIVER ANYTHING. SHAMEFUL SHIT
I really don’t like that. The sats keep going up in value in his pockets meanwhile we get a store credit for a Q
LIKE THAT COCKROACH IS GONNA RESPOND HERE IN THE LIGHT
Trezor in disbelief.
He also had a dissagreement with WalletScrutiny a few years ago, so I just checked and where do you think WalletScrutiny.org points to?
View quoted note →He also had a dissagreement with WalletScrutiny a few years ago, so I just checked and where do you think WalletScrutiny.org points to?
No they aren't lofl
Communist?
Lol ok
Are you hinting at definitive proof I’m not aware of or are you merely inserting what would be your intentions if the same fact pattern happened to you?
Grown ups can solve their own problems without outsiders having an opinion.
did you look at airgapcomputer.com? kinda interesting...
