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#Nostr and bitcoin seem like the start of a new hope. What other options do we have?
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What's wild to me is that when talking with friends about this, they think these actions are okay. They often reply with "I don't do anything wrong, so if it helps the government stop a terrorist attack, then I'm okay with it." I don't know how to get them to see the problems with this.
Can't wait for open souce car OS
It’s interesting to me that you still say “we”, considering how far you went to try to expose it and stop it. you did your part. the rest of us need to pick up the slack
The Android Open Source Project
It seems that promoting open-source products and technologies might be one of the only solutions.
I guess the problem is they don't think it will happen to them. When it does it's too late.
I imagine the Canadian truckers didn't think they would have their bank accounts frozen but it did happen.
Useful idiots and lemmings. It is a very frustrating conversation, I think it's just learned helplessness and Stockholm syndrome.
The spying is one part, but then it is the application of prediction and programming that is applied that turns passive spying into actionable facism.
We can take our privacy into our own hands, but it really doesen't matter to history. We only stick out like sore thumbs in the sea of people who prefer convenience over posession of their data. Most people are hopelessly and intentionally ignorant, and they are the ones that will credibly threaten you for the lies they are told about us.
what can one do about the car thing?
....Theo Kaczynski wasn't wrong.
The world just wasn't and still isn't ready for what he could have taught them.
His only recourse was to manifest it how he did it. How can a man get our attention and teach them what they didn't know, when most people still don't even know what they don't know.
View quoted note →Thank's in big part to you for the avalanche you helped to start, I don't know if this all spying matters much anymore. It seems to me that all of us here now are more badasses then you were then. Not to mention Bitcoin Magazine, Robert Breedlove, Max Keiser, Nayib Bukele, RFK Jr. and many more.
So…. you’re cool with the aliens destroying all wifi and satellites right?
Drive an older car with no smart computers nor sensors on board. Lots of fun I can assure you. You will still be tracked by your plate. And with that, well, just pretend to be someone else now and then.
All together now:
Parallel construction
Iot + iob = slow kill
Even our power tools are now "spying". Capturing telemetry on use and relaying back to the manufacturer without disclosure 😳
My experience as well. This is so far off everyone's radar that I see on a day to day basis. Its exhausting and depressing at times.
What is the solution besides becoming a Luddite and only driving cars built before 2000?
I’m sure the president knows what I’m putting in WhatsApp messages, but weird that a certain person doesn’t like this??? Doesn’t he just loooove watching/being watched or something..??
Are you Still in Russia?
"The signs were there"
You speak as though its a foregone conclusion, and sandly I agree.
The interesting angle here is that this is just a natural trend in human societal cycles. Its not the socialists/wef/globalists etc etc. This is a cycle that happens again and again, over and over in human history.
Its a trend that stems from the natural tendency of power hungry despots wishing to accumulate as many resources as possible.
Its a shame
> *History is still going to look back at this period with enormous bewilderment that we did not do more to stop what is coming. The signs were there.*
The average normie is an idiot. I get weird stares when I tell people don't use Messenger. Use Signal. Or refuse to allow Alexa in the same room with me.
Yes. My "privacy" decisions are nothing compared to threats Snowden is talking about. But that even stresses the point more. **Even little dumb steps like mine are considered "crazy" or too inconvenient by the average normie.**
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Who still uses plates on their car?
Came across this report recently:
Mozilla Foundation
*Privacy Not Included: A Buyer’s Guide for Connected Products
All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever rev...
It ends with a *but wait the situation isn't hopeless* message that encourages readers to sign a petition. Call me a pessimist but if the best they can offer by way of action steps is a petition then the median-term outlook isn't great.
Aside from buying an old car, anything you would recommend we do to at least mitigate or reduce the level of spying done through our cars?
There was a caller on C-SPAN who accused
@RobertKennedyJr of spreading conspiracy theories that the government is spying on Americans, and said his conspiracies are so dangerous that it "scares democrats"
So that's where we are
Who controls the media controls the minds of the public, and we know who controls the media they've been conditioned to implicitly trust - CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, WaPo
Explain please. In where I live, you wouldn't go far without a license plate.
Old car
Taped over phone cameras
Privacy software on phone
Faraday bag for travel
I'm aware there are security and information leaks still but I gotta draw the line somewhere
@npub1sn0w...jdv9 @🐈
Hi.
I was wondering if you see comments and whatnot from here in the Fediverse??? Your posts/toots are coming through, just not sure if you see anything here. 🤔
They spy on us, divide us and control us using these thing. Mass psychological warfare on the population.
I have "broadcast" your post to many relays in nostr side. I think he can probably see your post. By default, mostr.pub bridge only post to 4 nostr relays.
Most people have to get burned before they learn.
Do you think privacy will be preferable or even possible if technology keep current track? With human surveillance a person's patterns, vernacular, movements can be identified, now add AI capabilities and all the ways you leave a fingerprint. I suspect society would largely accept this for the benefits and convenience. Those who don't will struggle to avoid it.
History will not look back in bewilderment, because history will be rewritten.
by history you mean aliens?
Some day when its too late theyll realize that,
"why do you need privacy if you have nothing to hide?" Actually translates to
"Why do you need dignity if you have nothing to hide?"
The founding fathers were British terrorists. Too many people forget this.
Viewed as by the British Empire, but there was an idea that was the United States. I believe it was a noble one.
I probably need to read the thread 🤔
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Probably, because you made my point.
So, no harm done. 🤣❤️
It's already here. This isn't some zombie movie where they are chasing you walking. It's the cops who are driving by me every single day. Denying me the right to catch a bus to go down the street, they go through all of my files and applications for jobs I've applied at. And today they scanned my photo ID, and they had mint Mobile send me a code to scan a barcode for my SIM card info for my phone
I'm isolated and not allowed to talk to anyone still today on the bus someone wore a visitor badge. I know they go through my stuff when I leave the house. I have no freedom. No rights at all. They are still having people who do talk to me about the # 4. The black guys are Furious mad they know what's going on. Human Rights on LinkedIn they advocate and got the right answers. It's a lynching a hate crime because of someone's race or homeless status
Governor Ron DeSantis has censorship over peoples phones.
The world takes all kinds and so will the future. History is full of stories that guide us through. It's not easy nor should it be, constant vigilance is the price of freedom. Knowing how to work on cars is an important skill old or new, other simple things like knowing how to get where you are going before you go, in these things also lie the innovations to move past and then into new problems. What ever it is that you do, just build it with the values you want to see caried forward
In the advent of superior sound money, #Bitcoin enables all market actors to engage in a fair, voluntary game of mutual reciprocity without the risk of mistrust.
Use an old car.
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Old cars are cool. Go back for enough, and they're EMP proof as well.
We'll win.
You can say that again, but...
Please don't bother - your words are like concentric rings in a pond once the pebble is dropped into it, and even extremely recent history with the disinformation campaigns against so-called conspiracy theorization that proved to ring true more often than not are empirical evidence that what you say is not just true, but the omen of the as yet not fully realized coming #dystopia.
Those "...hopelessly and intentionally ignorant", will realize that they were the unwitting foot soldiers responsible for exterminating those who advocated for them only after they've discovered the full extent of their unwitting collusion.
#tallship #subjugation #serfdom #global_assimilation #Borg
Hope for the best
View quoted note →Yeah, but none of those policies has stopped a terrorist attack!
Amen
I believe one of goverments foundative capabilities is surveillance and total control of public comms. With strong influence of private ones. What possibly they have not foreseen was corporations achieving almost complete control of the private side of it and competing with them on public forums. Interesting times. From time to time I still check as example if Europe developed a home grown mobile operating system. With my surprise answer is always negative. If goverments can not and don’t want to I wonder what space of manouvering we actually have.
In Dune, human pilots had to get high on worm shit to be able to fly between the stars because thinking machines had become so abhorrent to society.
Lol you make the mistake of thinking that the average human has an IQ capable of understanding and caring.
They don’t they are literally goyim cattle
Huxley was correct
Guess most people don't want to be confronted with the truth. They can't handle the cognitive dissonance and "hope" it will not happen/become that worse.... Kind of Stockholm syndrom.
What do we even do? Seems sometimes like we're just fucked no matter what. Maybe it's time to just start fighting a real war over this shit. Many of us would die, but none of us seem to have anything worth living for anyway.
Pfft. Either participate or don’t, we all have a choice… in the end: “no one here gets out alive.”
#Cypherpunks have been talking about this for decades. #Bitcoin helps
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Wondering what your daily carry is as far as phones go? You full on flip or something like Graphene?
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The question becomes though, at this point, what are we actually supposed to do about it short of going to live in a cave somewhere? The billions, if not trillions, of dollars of infrastructure that has been built up around us is fully online and only getting more efficient and effective.
I'm wide open to ideas.
You need a loicence, plate! (it's a joke)
Check out /r/loicense
Is that the Dogecoin millionaire?
Hello, I have a question: can I dm you for it?
I'm just a pleb with an interest in digital privacy so my solutions may be flawed or inadequate (if so I'd love feedback from someone more knowledgeable).
Firstly, run open source software as much as possible. Including your operating systems. Linux for your desktop, GrapheneOS on your phone. Or better still get a dumbphone.
Second, try to convince the people you communicate with to use encrypted chat like Signal instead of SMS. Don't use social media (other than nostr, and even then stay anon if you want privacy).
Use a VPN. I use Mullvad. It allows me to pay for it KYC free with the lightning network.
Don't use any services from large tech companies. Gmail, iTunes, Google search, Spotify, Amazon, etc. They're all spying on you.
Use cash instead of a credit card.
Buy your bitcoin non-kyc
The more 'low tech' your car is, the better. Don't connect it to the internet. Don't connect it to your phone (aux cable is OK I think).
If you upload photos, use a program like Scrambled Exif to remove metadata. Be careful exposing anything from your real life online, it's amazing how much can be inferred from seemingly insignificant information.
Don't leave Bluetooth or location on on your phone.
Use a service like SimpleLogin to create dummy emails for signing up for things. Use a burner phone or temporary SMS service for when a service requires a phone number.
Get a PO box.
Privacy is a spectrum. The further you move towards ultimate privacy the less convenient your life is. This is by design. You have to find your personal sweet spot.
Hopefully others will chime in with additional tips, these are the best my pre-caffeinated brain could come up with.
Great summary of easy things to do to improve greatly your level of privacy. I would suggest paying for anything you can, using Monero for greater privacy, even if you buy Bitcoin non-KYC your spending history and habit can be analysed, connecting it with a pseudonym, an original IP or any other information available and there is the risk you may slip at some point and get everything connected to you.
I would also add:
Trade Monero for cash in person and spend cash everywhere, many times you get better deals when paying cash, everyone loves you more and you improve your privacy.
So, yesterday this normie friend was like "I couldn't ask you questions to know more about you, you're iron shut. Chains and shackles." (Or something to that sort.) I was like "I'm like an open book, especially to some people including you, so what are you talking about?"
He was like "out of all the people I know, you're THE ONLY ONE I talk on signal (I told him that's the only place I'll talk to him on, even tho he did get an account because of some other girl. Actually, before me 3 other women told him 'conspiracy' stuff, but guess that's still not enough to wake him up and he's not talking to the one that introduced him to signal now) and you're the only I know that uses a currency that has privacy (something to that sort), so I figured you're super secretive.
"Privacy and secrecy are two completely different things."
He continues: "Out of 100 contacts I have on my phone, NO ONE uses anything other than what comes with the phone itself but you."
"Okay!!! They should do better!!!
And you should make smarter friends! 😉"
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"I don't want these companies to have my data doesn't mean I won't tell you about who I am. Two completely different things!!"
Actually, come to think of it, not being monitored or recorded makes me able to open up about who I am. Hello!!
P.S.
And he works in tech!!!
Why, oh why, doesn't he see the problems in all the tracking?! Why?!?!?! 🤷🤷
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View quoted note →The articles I read about this said that the cars have hidden cameras recording us. I am extremely skeptical about this detail of the stories. Has anyone fact check this detail or found one of these cameras?
Do the cars have a hidden mic/camera recording to a hard drive and a cell chip (paid by who?) to send data to cloud servers?
Do the dealers offload the hidden video recordings?
Does your cell phone transmit the video recordings when you connect your phone to Bluetooth?
Anyway, I’m sure it’s all pretty awful but this one specific part of the story doesn’t add up to me. And the details around this would be interesting and worth knowing.
If there really is hidden cameras in the cars, according the passengers, we should have a database where we identify where those are in which models and how to disable them.
Because more often than not, the government is directly or indirectly involved in creating those attacks. Game theory tells us that from a government perspective terror attacks have much more upsides than downsides.
Unfortunately the same applies to Bitcoin vs Monero.
Either everybody is covered by default privacy or none is, as the few can easily be singled out.
It's the only time where the herd indeed gives security.
@jack Example: Apparently I have a Carfax account “courtesy of the dealership” and somehow unbeknownst to me I was just given an “award” badge for car maintenance and along with stats. Top 11% for a car?!
This account monitors *everything* on my car. The good is that it can warn me and bring my attention to defects or needed maintenance or even possibly detect danger. The trade off is privacy.
What happens if I don’t get regular oil changes and tire rotations?!
Obviously there is some sort of hidden metrics and scoring system already in place that no one else is privy to.
It can be very dangerous for people who can’t perfectly maintain their car on schedule. Like will they be downgraded or something? How do “underwriters” or whoever else use this data?!💖
Graphene brah
Bullshit, literally everything people worry about has happened.
What kind of doomer downer bullshit is this?
Chin up kid, we got a lot to live for..
I am with you
@ShiShi21m
The bigger the fight, the greater the victory. To the barricades! Hodl like there is no tomorrow and there will be. 😀💜
Many cars have schematics available and show what wires and possibly the fuse that will disconnect the telematics module.
Several phones now have hardware switches to disable the modem and etc.
Faraday bags work great for blocking mobile phone frequencies, unfortunately the rest of the phone is not that useful at that time and the phone microphones still work.
Has anyone had any success desoldering the modem and internal microphone/cameras from phones that don't have hardware switches?
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We tend to use only the rear view mirror. It seems inevitable that we'll respond after the fact, and and probably too late.
This is part of the "package" I'm working with
Tell them the simple fact about the sociopath infiltration. Process. In other words any order so we'll constructed that the sociopath can't destroy from the outside. They infiltrate to assume it's power.
It’s the whole “Smart” thing, one can scarcely escape it, it’s in our tvs, houses, phones and God knows what else. Not an excuse, though it is the refuge of a lazy mind.
They’re spying, or let the government spy, because they can sell to the gov expensive software, hardware & everything.
Once upon a time you decided to release a phone app poised at empowering people with little resources to do something…. However small that recording may have seemed. You’ve provided bits of advice and wisdom along the way. It’s time we need something more comprehensive (or perhaps I just don’t know of it).
I’ve been surprised to see no movement from you toward releasing educational videos/guides walking people through best practices, maybe some systems testing, and whatever other topically pertinent items appeal to you which might ultimately give people just an ounce of agency in withstanding the all-too-common governmental abuses of power.
You warned us the Red Coats were coming… they’re here, Ed.
What now? It’s time we set up the traps before barricading the doors. A little less spying, hey?
