Who will build the roads? Honestly why do we care? What if no one build any roads and then suddenly we were left with only trails in the woods? Isn't that a much more adventurous and poetic life that would make the world much more interesting? I thought socialists and statists of all kinds hated cars and trucks. So they should be for an anarchist society with no roads too.

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The same people who build them now. It's not like everyone will forget their profession if the government doesn't tell them what their job is. Painters will paint, construction workers will construct, bus drivers will drive busses and everyone gets paid by those who use their service.
Anarcho-primitivism is a commie ideology. The better bet is effective accelerationism, “where we’re going we don’t need roads”.
Hello fiatjaf, I`m that one user that lives in the middle of the Pacific ocean. We have plenty of jungles here, but for little old me to get to you, I need to sail the great Pacific. Its quite adventurous, but a little bit lonely. Meet me half way?
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Troy 1 year ago
Where I live, there are some communities that pool money to take care of their roads/driveway. No government required to hire workers.
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banjo 1 year ago
Well, I'm pretty rural (compared to most probably extremely rural) and have quite a few dirt roads...just part of life. Would I trade them for paved roads and higher taxes? LOL
I wouldn't use the word "worry", but I do think about the possible horrible extremes humanity may come to considering our bloody, murderous history and present. Will it be Anarcho Primitivism and the rise of warlords and feudal kingdoms or will it be an AI enhanced future where we give up our humanity to the bots in the interest of an easier life? Troubling times ahead my friend. If not for us, then our progeny.
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Hynek 1 year ago
Commies don’t care about consistency
Are you fucking joking? What does the government have to do with providing antibiotics or food quality?? All government services can be provided more efficiently by private market
We don' *need* no stinkin' roads!🤣
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Road building is archaic the same thing over and over expecting different results…
If they end up with trails, and we end up with flying cars, I wonder how much they'll complain about how bad we are for using evil technology or something like that, vs. how much they'll complain about how bad we are for not sharing.
But of course there would be a way other than socialism. It’s not the hardest thing to solve in the world. We can fly. We can compute. We can Bitcoin.
"Isn't that a much more adventurous and poetic life" Here's the secret that they won't tell you, it's actually a more HUMAN life... which of course would also be more adventurous and poetic because humans are poetic and adventurous... The goal of their roads is the same as the goal of their cities, their schools etc: its to domesticate, and easily herd the most profitable livestock on the planet: 'humans'.
communists love big roads to project power and capitalists love them because they can do a shitty job and then keep fixing them forever in wn endless fiat milking
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Rand 1 year ago
caterpillars r 2....dozeaway!
Who’s going on about roads? I often see reference to the roads question without anyone going on about roads. There’s quite a lot of roads already. Now how about a Fender Rhodes, who will build them?! Fender doesn’t seem that interested. Not even fully communist countries are making them.
BASED! My granddad and my mom built their own roads even before the so-called local "government" even cared to build any roads.
We shouldn’t care. We should care who builds the hyperloops and matter transport beams. Assuming people value their most scarce asset - time.
Honestly why do I care? There are shared public common concerns, of which transportation is but one. (Clean water is another.) If the majority conclude that radically slower and lower energy livelihoods are the correct path to sustainable and ultimately better ways to live, I'm down. But Bitcoin has very little in common with that. Rather, it is predicated on very high speed, globally connected "roads".
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Sats Germain 1 year ago
Didn't you know life expectancy is falling in the US? Maybe you're not American, but I can tell you from experience living in several countries, we have more government involved in our lives than anywhere I've lived yet. Antibiotics? In Asia, you can get antibiotics when you need them ; here, you can't. I live in a very nice town in a part of the US with the strongest economy, and my water tastes like sewage. I'd like to collect rainwater, and that's actually legal in my state, but the HOA won't allow it. Do you know anything about nutrition? I'm a health nut of the most obnoxious sort, and proud of it. I can't believe the kinds of foods that I find in grocery stores - how the actual F is it legal to sell food with 1800% sodium per serving? I saw that the other day. Other foods have canola oil as first or second listed ingredient - that industrial lubricant, not food, and it's killing people. The FDA goes around shutting down small farms, but lets that get into grocery stores? TBH, it looks like the government is actively trying to make life worse.
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Sats Germain 1 year ago
Haiti is a terrible example of libertarianism. Haiti has had more foreign backed coups (by the US) and IMF loans than any other place I can think of. That's as far opposite of libertarian as you can get - they're completely dominated by state violence and predatory loans.
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Josua Schmid 1 year ago
We care because we find civilization useful. Socialists have difficulties to differ between leveling the balances and tearing down civilization.
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tulkooo 1 year ago
We all buy Ford Raptors or Defenders and travel whatever road
As long as you don’t get seriously ill and you have to move from one place to another. Yes, it would be an adventure.
People will. Roads are not there because of governments, are there because of people. The difference between tarmac and trails is the scientific stage.