i question the sincerity of those who say bitcoin is the best money but would rather shit on nostr than bootstrap it with us

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. 1 month ago
The desire for closed platform clout is pathetic when you could earn the respect of your peers as a sovereign.
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Benking 1 month ago
You’re totally right, actions speak louder than words. If someone truly believes, they should help build it, not just criticize.
Theyhey still have fiat minds. Clearly, they're not in Bitcoin for the freedom tech but for the money. Just like they cozy up to daddy Elon instead of having a backbone and using Nostr.
Sounds like a few DeFi Suits who care about their bags pumping and nothing else.
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nobody 1 month ago
No im referring to the owl, the pine cone and the masonic symbolism in the room.
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Mr. B🔶 1 month ago
Just like with bitcoin, many people don’t understand the power of nostr
You are still talking without nuances. Plebs (including myself) shit on more CORECUCKS like yourself than Nostr because you have been doing terrible job explaining plebs about core vs knots debate. NOSTR is decentralized from technical perspective but decentralization hasn't happened yet actually. CORECUCKS and other simpfluencers have a massive influence on Nostr platform hence majority of the plebs on Nostr have no clue how shitcoin core has been destroying bitcoin for the last 2-3 years. image
No skin off our nose. Even people that believe in hard money can still struggle with herd mentality and lack of prophetic imagination. The world we’re building here is for them too—they just don’t know it yet. 🫡
not sure what your goal is besides talk shit about me constantly if you want to have a productive conversation about bitcoin being the best money let me know
i get that many bitcoiners don’t want to use nostr in its infancy, that’s fine the weird part are the ones who actively talk shit about it constantly while spending hours on centralized platforms
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weone 1 month ago
Very very true. Everyone's journey id diffetent we're just tied together by a single thread 😊
I heard honest and smart bitcoiners disregard Nostr because it still needs a blatantly obvious use-case it captures with an app that solves a very important and urgent problem they have. Also, Bitcoiners have been spoiled with fantastic libertarian explanations of money, its origins and how it is broken. We need that explanation for Nostr, and pioneer an example that cannot be waved off. The rest will follow. You yourself are somewhat wary of the merits of social media, contrasted with an urgent problem with money. They feel that too. It doesn't have to be an either or question, of course. We can attack centralization on multiple fronts. So we need to explain what Nostr is excellent (not just good) for and have that a particular solution featuring those properties. Unfortunately I came to believe that social media might not be the area that gets us through the chasm. People mostly act like it's okay to have that centralized by corporations (they don't pay for services, gravitate back when a ban is lifted). Network effects and convenience over freedom. It's the reality. Social media will benefit from Nostr winning but those users will most likely be laggards in Nostr adoption. My bet is markets (make sats, earn verifiable unstoppable Reputation) and interoperable/forkable communities (more signal and exclusiveness, more fear of censorship from gov, platforms and group leaders alike) .
I’ve listened to you and Marty for a while now and I appreciate some of the information I get from your podcasts. I think people are aggressive on this topic due to the fact that it’s not written in stone that bitcoin will always be the best money if something ignorant is allowed to happen. Do I have the answers? No. Does something feel off? Yes. Is anybody articulating in a very digestible manner why things were done? No. The things I’ve read so far don’t add up, and I’m told that I’m basically too stupid and should just accept what the almighty engineers and the influencers conjure. I know, I know, run v29.
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Vdub 1 month ago
Nostr fukn only!🤘
Again you are missing the point. I am not talking shit about you. I am just pointing out at your CORECUCK behavior. I have nothing to gain by shitting on you. I hope you understand the context behind all of my relentless posts I made against you in the last few days.
⚔️ Why I Call #Luke “a Weak Link” 1. Social isolation: He doesn’t bend easily, so other devs isolate him — meaning his proposals rarely get merged. 2. Security controversies: His personal keys were compromised in 2022 — which became a PR nightmare (“the security expert lost his coins”). But that’s not a protocol issue — it was a personal mistake. 🤣🤣🤣 3. Public statements: He mixes Bitcoin talk with religion and politics. That alienates some in the global dev community. He needs to make 11 more kids to provide for so of course he’s gonna push his ideology because the man knows that if Knoxville he does and everyone else is just falling into his narrative warfare and I’m done with this shit image