Primal 3.0 is here!
This major upgrade includes a brand new wallet: no KYC, no limits, all regions supported.
New in Primal 3.0:
- Spark wallet
- Polls (regular & zap-based)
- GIF button
- Smooth onboarding
- Faster feeds
IMPORTANT: We’re rolling Primal 3.0 out to Premium and Pro users first as a thank you for your support. ♥️🫂 General availability is coming in the next couple of days.
Premium/Pro user but don’t see it yet? Email support@primal.net and we’ll provide the 3.0 build. Please try it and let us know how it hits!
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genios
esperando la actualizacion en zapstore
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I don't think we have any flag selections in our UI. What specifically are you referring to?
We are releasing only to Premium/Pro users today. If you don't already have access, just email support@primal.net and we’ll provide the 3.0 build.
Was thinking the same, don't wanna use email.
Stoked for this. Hop on test flight to help us test out the kinks before we make this available to everyone 🙌
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Go Primal!
Why Spark wallet?
I am just reading that the privacy aspect of it is something like worst of the worst.
#asknostr
Ah got it. Twitter has a custom emoji set, so they can tweak it anytime they like. We simply use what's available in the OS.
BECAUSE PRIMAL IS WORST OF THE WORST
I think Primal 3.0 is going to be awesome ✨💜
I got this email 📧 this morning and made the transfer of my Sats to another wallet at the same time!
I had to pay the fees!
But I'm fine.
Now I just want to let everyone know that if you don't transfer Sats without others knowing, it can cause problems.
I hope everyone sees the email 📧& my post 💬
I love @primal 💜🫡


I'd zap you but I don't have a wallet yet cos I don't have version 3 yet.
DANGER!
First, I'm a big supporter of Primal, and I know why they've compromised and used a permissioned & centralized API like Spark for their wallet. It might be the best choice for many of their users.
But also, you need to realize when you use Spark, you are trusting one very politically active, very wealthy, family (the Marcus family)..... to custody your funds, approve your transactions, and monitor your transactions.
When Primal says that your Spark wallet is "non-custodial" - this is basically a legal fiction. In reality, LightSpark (
) is controlling your funds -- they're running the centralized Lightning nodes that handle your payments.
Again: For some users this might be fine.
But if you are not a supporter of the state of Israel ... or ... if you are engaged in anything where you need privacy, or, for example, you don't want your data shared with certain governments..... please be very cautious with Spark.
More details: 

Lightspark
Lightspark | The API for money: accounts, payments, cards
Launch global accounts, payments, cards, and stablecoins under your brand with one integration. Local rails in 65+ countries, real-time settlement,...
GitHub
No clear way to run an SSP without a business relationship with LightSpark? · Issue #64 · buildonspark/spark
This project seems to be gaining momentum and there are community concerns that both SSPs (lightspark, flashnet) are controlled by the same family....
Isn't Spark supposed to allow unilateral exit ?
And isn't it supposed to be an open source protocol that anyone can fork and use in better ways that what Lightspark is doing?
The privacy is similar to what a VPN brings you. It's difficult for the outside word to track your funds within the Park Servers (at least it will be difficult when they stop the address reuse lol) but the Spark entity can see all your txs within the Spark Server + the lightning payments you are doing.
They can also censor your payments and KYC shotgun you if they want.
But the protocol is supposed to allow an unilateral exit path. Meaning you can leave the Spark entity if the operator starts to behave wrongly.
Got it working and backed up the new wallet.
Parts of Spark are indeed "open source" -- but not the important parts, which shows how it interacts with Lightning. Anyway, it doesn't matter -- as of right now, only LightSpark is running the back-end, so if you use Primal's new wallet, you should assume that all your transactions, I.P. address -- basically your entire online identity -- goes into LightSpark's database. Not something I would personally be comfortable with.
GIF button 😍
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Email support@primal.net and we’ll hook you up.
Sure. But as long as the unilateral exit is possible, it’s still a positive evolution compared to fully custodial wallet I’d say. So maybe we should try to see the glass half full rather than empty. Without stoping to criticize and warn people of course.
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Surprise, surprise, primal making false claims again. 😂
Good points. Personally, I would not keep too much money in this wallet. It would suck to lose, but not a big deal if I lose it.
Usually it just gets zapped back out
trade offs exist with nearly everything.
for example? tell us about trade offs with your stuff
Pick one of my stuffs and I'll tell you. Which one?
Nostr note.
Hair cut.
Okay. I bought a Leaf razor and started shaving my head last fall. Previously I was using an electric razor with no guard. I started doing this a few years ago because of hair loss. As a result of not needing to get hair cuts, I can now stack more sats.
Ser… Don’t act like marketing a business is a mystery
This is amazing.
This is badass. Nice job on the vid @paul keating
Not a good look, particularly at the moment. Will look into this.
Again -- for many users, surveillance and top-down control aren't really something they care about, so using a lightning address from LightSpark really is a fine solution -- it's pretty convenient and should work fine when LightSpark's servers aren't down or unresponsive.
But -- If you DO care about surveillance and self-custody, please take the time to do this properly with a solution like Alby Hub, which is **real** self-custody, with a fully verifiable code stack that you can run on your own hardware, with no compromises: 

Alby Hub | Bitcoin Lightning Wallet that Connects to Apps
Alby Hub is a self-custodial bitcoin lightning wallet that connects to hundreds of apps. Spend Bitcoin in person, on the web and inside apps with e...
do trade offs also have trade offs?
Sure -- but is it too much to ask for LightSpark to be honest about the service they are offering?
They seem to be marketing it as "self-custodial".... when in fact it's nothing of the kind, and users have no choice but to allow LightSpark to collect sensitive data like their I.P. address and browser details?
But in principle -- Rizful vs. LightSpark -- you are basically right. There's nothing necessarily better about Rizful.
But: Rizful isn't literally a Lightning "compliance" company with prominent ties to Israel? Maybe that matters?
Again -- for users who actually give a shit -- use a proper solution like Alby Hub.
For all others, do your research about who you are "doing business with" and don't be taken in by false claims about "self-custody" or think that "no KYC" means that there won't be "eventual KYC".....
Hmm. The sats I'm stacking due to saving on haircut fees could be used to buy beer. So I'm less drunk, but I could be more drunk. Trade offs.
Hmmm. Can you make your wallet services just as simple for users?
Channel/ liquidity management as a service, makes lightning the cheap fast payment rail it was always made to be....
I've been a WoS loyalist since I joined nostr 3yrs ago... but this spark thing is kinda concerning.
fair point

there's like 5 bucks in there, i dont care lol
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do ihave to be a paid member to get the non-custodial wallet?
I am neither premium nor pro - but I have a server. So...technically I can selfhost it haha.
Is the source up already? Might give it a shot. o.o
Also - Spark wallet. I currently run CLN/BTCd and my cln is apparently superduper broken (unspent trust errors, whatever). How custodial is Spark compared to something like Alby for instance?
Because seriously, I am really considering to just yeet the whole cln/btc stack to reclaim ~800GB and just end my suffering of selfhosting this crap. x.x
thanks for letting me know, I want to make the american rizful family rich, not the already rich American Marcus family who religion is Jewish. I don't trust these so called jewish families.
try Rizful
Yahoo!! Net and yahoo.
TY... greatly appreciate you sharing your insights on this.
They did it with purpose.
Thank you. Useful.
We run today standard bitcoin nodes and we have our own payment system (instances for ourselves and for some clients that wish to receive bitcoin payments and have some functionalities).
Next step is to accept Monero in the same fashion.
And then we will go back into studying the intricacies of crypto and see what else we want to develop and enable.
Unfortunately right now stuck in marketing and expanding the user base...
What more would they get than is already trackable? Could you find out what posts I'm zapping anyways? i guess there is a difference between actively being tracked and could be tracked
Maybe this company reports me for zapping anti trump or anti Israel memes 🤔
Every technical option is used by anyone. First they track, than they analyze, and finaly they act (not to our favour).
It is very good! Love it so far.
Awesome!! Can you make it so we can chose app logo
Glitch with photo appearing on zaps.


#7
Nostr’s Value4Value (V4V) model is all about plebs directly rewarding creators for the value they receive, no middlemen fees, no ads, just pure community-driven support using sats via the Bitcoin Lightning Network.
Thanks to by @PABLOF7z for providing this data.
Here are the Top Zapped/Top Zappers from last week, showcasing the creators who received/sent the most engagement:
🔥 Top 3: Most Zapped
1. Name: @Bugle.News #40HPW🎧
- Zaps Received: 642
- Sats Earned: 244k
2. Name: @FLASH
- Zaps Received: 497
- Sats Earned: 30k
3. Name: @utxo the webmaster 🧑💻🍁
- Zaps Received: 295
- Sats Earned: 126k
🔥 Top 3: Most Zappers
1. Name: @AQSTR
- Zaps Sent: 2031
- Sats Spent: 118k
2. Name: @BitBees
- Zaps Sent: 150
- Sats Spent: 3k
3. Name: @Yarnlady 🧶
- Zaps Sent: 123
- Sats Spent: 3k
💰 Top 3: Most Sats Received
1. Name: @Bugle.News #40HPW🎧
- Sats Earned: 244k
- Zaps Received: 642
2. Name: @utxo the webmaster 🧑💻🍁
- Sats Earned: 126k
- Zaps Received: 295
3. Name: @npub10uth...xdlq
- Sats Earned: 126k
- Zaps Received: 26
💰 Top 3: Most Sats Sent
1. Name: @mcshane
- Sats Spent: 157k
- Zaps Sent: 28
2. Name: @AQSTR
- Sats Spent: 119k
- Zaps Sent: 2038
3. Name: @Lysergic4cid
- Sats Spent: 60k
- Zaps Sent: 42
Here are the Top Zapped from last week, showcasing notes that received the most engagement:
🔥 Top 3: Most Zapped
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- Zaps Received: 109
- Sats Earned: 39k
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- Zaps Received: 69
- Sats Earned: 9k
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- Zaps Received: 69
- Sats Earned: 38k
🔥 Top 3: Most Sats
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- Sats Earned: 40k
- Zaps Received: 27
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- Sats Earned: 32k
- Zaps Received: 1
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- Sats Earned: 38k
- Zaps Received: 69
#most-zapped_nostr_recap
Nostr’s Value4Value (V4V) model is all about plebs directly rewarding creators for the value they receive, no middlemen fees, no ads, just pure community-driven support using sats via the Bitcoin Lightning Network.
Thanks to ZAPLIFE.LOL
A decentralized Craigslist running on Nostr
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1. Great news from Miljan to us 😍
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2. Nostriches, what is your opinion about this? 🫵🏻
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3. We are still early and our method of spreading Nostr is through persuasion 🔥
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4. You still need to be on centralized platforms? 👇🏻
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5. Primal team is reacting so quickly to the bugs 💪🏻
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6. The very first day of an UK music artist on Nostr 👩🏻🎤
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7. A decisive statement from Rizful 👇🏻
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8. A note of thanks and gratitude 🫡
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9. Have you noticed what she's asking? 👇🏻
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10. A real-life example that schools pushes students to centralization 🤮
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11. Are you jumping in with him? 🫵🏻
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#community_nostr_recap
1. Great news from Miljan to us 😍
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2. Nostriches, what is your opinion about this? 🫵🏻
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3. We are still early and our method of spreading Nostr is through persuasion 🔥
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4. You still need to be on centralized platforms? 👇🏻
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5. Primal team is reacting so quickly to the bugs 💪🏻
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6. The very first day of an UK music artist on Nostr 👩🏻🎤
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7. A decisive statement from Rizful 👇🏻
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8. A note of thanks and gratitude 🫡
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9. Have you noticed what she's asking? 👇🏻
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10. A real-life example that schools pushes students to centralization 🤮
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11. Are you jumping in with him? 🫵🏻
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#community_nostr_recapBtw, Spark transaction history is public anyway. You can list anyone’s history if you know their username (ln address or saw invoice from @Wallet of Satoshi).