Me: having children is a wonderful thing that will add deep meaning and fulfillment to your life.
Random nostr users: you are an arrogant douchebag and a privileged rich white guy. Fuck you. I hope you die.
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That's Twitter bro
Haters gonna hate
Twitter has arrived. Now we just need deeter #letmeseethatdickbro
I love my kids. I also love knowing I'm raising them to be toxic Bitcoin maxis and freedom extremists. I'm doing my part to make sure those jagweeds lose long term.
Way to continue to betray your lack of logic.
That's a "strawman" logical fallacy.
Learn how to argue.
Learn how to communicate precisely.
Crazy and envious times eh? They missed the message entirely and their insecurities were releaved in HD.
I think they are misunderstanding causation and correlation. For example, I am a rich arrogant privileged white douchebag...AND my kids bring deep meaning and fulfillment to my life. The kids add to my privilege, sure, but they're not the reason I'm an arrogant douchebag. That's Red Bull and podcasts.
Proves a lot.
If you can’t beat em’
Join em’
If you can’t join em’
Go full retard, and spill sad hate.
That happened on Nostr a day or two ago.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let DINKs be DINKs
As for my wife and I, we will be SILKs
S - Single
I - Income
L - Lotsa
K - Kids
Because with 8+ kids, one parent always needs to be home caring for and raising the kids.
You here: “having children is a wonderful thing that will add deep meaning and fulfillment to your life.”
You before: “It’s not a lifestyle decision. And if you think it is you’re severely brainwashed. It’s time to delete that bit of malware in your mind.”
I would hope you’d understand how those statements might earn very different reactions from a bunch of people who fundamentally don’t like being told what to do.
I guess it's true. Every hater that you have is doing worse than you.
I see no difference in those statements. None.
I mean... can't both things be true? 🤣
lol you’re so triggered man
You are being obtuse and you know it.
It’s retarded to say everyone should procreate. The unconscious should not procreate because it creates more suffering in the world. Not everyone needs children to find deep meaning and fulfillment in life. Some people find deep meaning in life through solitude. At the end of the day regardless if you have children or not we must all go within and find meaning and fulfillment. It’s within us. Not outside us. I’m assuming those who are triggered by your statement that we should all have babies have a deep wound that they need to address.
arrogant, white and not gay. hang him
Nuh-uh
At least I'm not a liar.
Some knickers have certainly been gotten in a twist! Let the outrage mining continue!
Well. Are you ? xD
Random Nostr users probably don't remember that thanks to their parents they were once children…
While you came from poverty now you are rich and your lived experience is different from people still struggling in poverty. Poor people simply cannot afford to have children.
I didn’t come from poverty. Just dysfunction.
Voluntarily ending your own bloodline is so enlightening it makes you wish death upon others. That checks out
To give Random Nostr users credit, they will win in their hopes and you will eventually die. So will I, and so will everyone else out there. 🤣
Yes-huh!
Anyway for real I have kids and love them, but the framing rubbed me wrong. They are obviously a positive and if too few people want to jump onboard, need to figure out why and address that. The “why” is what brought us here.
Have kids or dont, it's a personal issue. No one cares lol.
Why does the richer a country get, the lower its birth rate get? I think your last sentence just demonstrates that the anti-kid agenda is a Malthusian anti-family death Psyop.
Some of the happiest countries are underdeveloped with high birth rates. Rid your mind of this malware. Poor people can have kids. They will be happier and richer for it.
Not everyone has to agree, but spreading hate over love and family says more about them than me.
Such lovely people in the world
Stay on message bro, families outlast individuals every time 🚁👍🏻
Children are great,teenagers are a fuckin catastophe!
Children are the greatest impulse for delivering all of the soul you’ve brought into this human lifetime ✨❤️🌟❤️🌟❤️
Looks like trolling exists everywhere on the internet regardless of algorithm or no
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Even without an algorithm.... hilarious
I totally respect those that don’t want children and sympathize with those that can’t. For me personally (father of 10 year old twins), sometime around their first birthday it hit me like a ton of bricks, that they would be the best thing I ever do with my life no matter what else I accomplish or experience. They are literally my reason for being. Maybe it’s not for everyone, but it’s plenty enough for me
According to The Economist, "Pro-natalism is part of an insidious project to create a whiter America." Soooo, you're obviously racist. 🤣
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When you express an opinion or personal ideology, the trolls will come. Nostr is not immune from social media psychopathy.
Can't belive this is a controversial opinion in this age. Also pls check your DM, thanks 🙏🏼
Hodl.
Most people have deep interpersonal and sexual trauma.
The thought of loving someone else deeply and truly is terrifying.
Let alone the love and commitment that emerges when one becomes a parent.
Terrifying to most.
And fiat has made the family unit financially strenuous experience.
Match these two things together and the birth rate plummeting is no surprise.
What I have noticed from many of the detractors of these posts about marriage and children by @HODL is an underlying rejection of an objective moral standard.
The strong libertarian ethos of the Bitcoin and Nostr community has many positive qualities, but one of the biggest ditches libertarians fall into is the *everything is subjective* mindset and the assumption that freedom means people can do and think whatever they want (always with some vague caveat about not hurting other people) because every lifestyle decision is of equal moral value and deserves to be respected.
But there is an objective moral standard and there are objectively bad reasons to not get married or have children. If someone chooses not to get married or have children for one of these objectively bad reasons, they are *free* to do so, but that decision is still, nonetheless, a morally impoverished one.
Coming up with a thousand nuanced situations that justify a person not having children doesn't change the normativity of having them, the joy and fulfillment found in having them, the objectively superior moral value in having them, or the civilizational suicide course we are on because we aren't having them.
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counterpoint
people used to just have kids because they needed the labor
lol
thats not what he said
this guy has it right
Look beneath a 'Dominionist' argument and you'll usually find a rejection (or at least a misunderstanding) of the Covenant of Works--and therefore of justificatian (and eventually eschatology).
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Are you a Christian? Also yeah I like his takes, we follow each other. Apostle Paul was one of the first people I thought of that lived fulfilling life without children
They are losers don't woery about them
I'm not.
It puts a new spin on Paul for me.
Many cultures in the world have big families because of an ignorance around pregnancy and “birth control”.
Based.
I'm 51 years old, prospering and in good health. I have an awesome wife, and we have NO children.
(We're actually Catholic, so we don't contracept.)
I have no problem telling young couples to generously make babies. That's what we're supposed to do. It is a great blessing on so many levels.
I understand that when we are older and need assistance, my wifeand I will have no family to help us or care for us. And when one of us dies, the other will be all alone.
It's a cross from God we will bear. It will be okay. But one should never choose this path for the sake of fun now, for convenience now, for independence now.
That's a terrible trade-off you will regret if you had a choice.
Agreed and obviously not everyone has the choice.
Both of these statements can be true 😂👊🫂
This is real
How many plebs do you think @hodl destroyed with his treasury company degeneracy this time? Better pivot to lecturing us on children.
make nostr friendly again
I hope you live 🤗
Sorry for making the assumption. That’s also what I love about Bitcoin. There no typical background for Bitcoiners. Left / right/ rich/ poor etc etc. it’s just that once you get it, you get it. And then you become obsessed with it.
🤔 actually I’m now wondering if we’re all a bit autistic.
Dont die (yet), hope you first get to enjoy a long & fulfilled life with your kids & let others enjoy their lives with or without 🫶