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and to think i don't even have bluetooth on.... 😏
This is huge
Baller.
Maybe this will help #grownostr 👀
View quoted note →I was hoping something like this would happen.
Would be great to have it as communities too.
Let's say Eg you form a huge mesh at Glastonbury, you can then make a nostr-baswd community Glastonbury 2025, or a football match, you then make eg Manchester United Group.
Perhaps options to only have access to the group if you've been involved in a mesh.
🤔
Knew it.
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We are very early.
Id assume for bridging? Aka creating relays between BitChat and Nostr? This could allow BitChat messages to be transmitted and interconnected with users in other geographical areas, even if they're not within Bluetooth range. So basically Nostr could act as a bridge to expand BitChat's reach, only when your connected to the internet. But don't take my word for it. I'm just assuming. We really don't quite know yet.
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Innovation at its finest
kaboom!
Apparently football matches suffer from poor/no mobile phone reception, I didn't actually know this, it came up in conversation with a football-going friend. I know festivals/carnivals suffer from this and obviously protests. Makes sense that large sporting events would also suffer from this really.
submit a PR
So you start a mesh with irl friends and then everyone is added to a nostr community. The proof of work is having been in the mesh. Great idea
Makes it harder for spammers/scammers
Looking forward to figuring out how to use this. Thanks Jack.
Any large gathering that overwhelms the towers with traffic 💯
Interesting
Just got it today. Holy shit, this thing is next level!
#bitchatstr
Can a chat be initiated and conducted on internet connection without Bluetooth?
Can you make it so it works on Bluetooth with location permission for app only? (no global location services enabled on Android)
I like how this is developing
View quoted note →BEST FEATURE EVER !!! … it’s like vRave or IRC meets real world … the 90s raver would “/gift” everyone a pixie-stick if we were all in the same room.
Long live vRave & Spacebar !!! Rave-chatters unite !!!
Super dope! Just downloaded
Also a great on-boarding flow for nostr. You leverage the Jack marketing to get your friends to try the cool Bluetooth app. Next thing they know, once they leave the mesh they all have nostr keypairs and already part of a community of people they know. Genius
🔥🔥🔥
You go boy
Purple!? :D yassss
Purple is the best color.
View quoted note →@Enki this could literally double as what we were talking about that one time
Bitchat is punk rock… deal with it.
That sounds awesome. Thank you, for your hard work and dedication.
Badass
I was just thinking today: wen are all these bitchat users gonna hit nostr relays
👀 Any openings in the test flight?
live on test flight now. next stop: app store.
View quoted note →Need a bitchat primal walk-through
@paul keating 👀
Dude. Rad
Anyone have the TestFlight link to share?
Now it’s getting interesting! 👀
If only there was people to use it with to try this awesome idea out with😅😅😅
I knew it! This is going to be awesome to rebuild the internet from the mesh up. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
View quoted note →ACCELERATE
That’s a lot of commits :-)
Something like this? :)
**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
**New Update Enhances bitchat’s Bluetooth Mesh Chat Security and Performance**
[The Interwebs, 07/30/2025] – The bitchat project, a decentralized, peer-to-peer messaging application utilizing Bluetooth mesh technology, is excited to announce a significant update detailed in the latest pull request (#358). This update introduces critical improvements to enhance the security and efficiency of private communications.
The latest development reinforces robust end-to-end encryption and mutual authentication between users. This enables mutual favorites to automatically switch to a Nostr-based transport when one of them leaves the mesh. Currently this is only for private messages using NIP-17.
Now, people can bitchat in person, Favorite each other at that time, and then can continue the conversation if Internet is available through Nostr, from any distance. There is no need to input an npub or know anything about Nostr.
Bitchat, known for its IRC-inspired vibes and ability to operate without internet connectivity, continues to evolve as a censorship-resistant communication tool. The project remains open-source, inviting contributions from the community to further its mission of secure, decentralized messaging.
For more details and to download the latest version, visit the BitChat GitHub repository. Users are encouraged to update their applications to benefit from these enhancements.
**Contact:**
GitHub
Implement Nostr NIP-17 for offline messaging and performance optimizations by jackjackbits · Pull Request #358 · permissionlesstech/bitchat
Summary
This PR implements Nostr NIP-17 private messaging for mutual favorites, removes RSSI tracking, and includes significant performance optimiz...
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Great concept
this jack guy ships! 💯
View quoted note →Yoooo Jack Mac
Can I get an invite ✈️
it's a nostr-relay-based chat client that also works with wifi mesh and bluetooth connections
idk why they made it work with bluetooth, easier and simpler to just, you know, talk.
Can a chat be initiated and conducted on internet connection without Bluetooth?
Can you make it so it works on Bluetooth with location permission for app only? (no global location services enabled on Android)
So you could bitchat 😝 lol
i bitch@ plenty of people already lol
Just noticed that if we stand side by side we could protect each other’s backs
i gotta say, some of the trending things on nostr over the years have been pretty damn stupid and puerile, but this bitchat thing is maybe an ATH of retardation
@calle can peer0 without internet pass a message through BLE to peer1 within 30m who is connected to internet
And then peer1 passes it to peer2 over the internet
And then peer2 passes it to peer3 over BLE
So a message from peer0 could reach peer3 across the world without either of them being connected to the internet?
whaaaaat
Oh yeah, well that’s promising
View quoted note →Can you feel the freedom anon
View quoted note →Freedom flowing
So you’re telling me:
View quoted note →How can it be "Privacy First" when one has to globally enable "Location Services" on one's phone before Bitchat can be used?
Need more space in testflight!
Testing ✨
Great work!
Let the sats to flow. Integrate Meshtastic.
This is awesome! Jack you rock!
iirc vibe
nah i'm exaggerating. i'm glad to see chat getting a more thorough treatment. it's nostr's biggest deficiency. i'm not surprised everyone is getting excited about it.
there is also the fact that it is going to help bring on a lot more development of small, community relay systems to go with it.
so, carry on retards. the work is important :)
A lot of recent sentiment from really smart people has been: the first big Nostr app will look totally different from what's out there now. I think Bitchat is that app.
everything is possible
read again?
I am aware of the Android requirement but know that in the early versions of Bitchat it was enough to just give app location permission, Location Services of phone could be off.
I have a different unrelated app that uses Bluetooth and this works for that app too. (grant the app location permission, leave Location Services off)
Can you link bitchat to things like meshtastic
Okay, now *this* is an interesting use of nostr.
Waiting for official android ☹️
Can we get this to work without google play services? For Graphene users
Dang, this is how we rebuild open communication networks!
Running bitchat
I wonder: does this app drain battery like crazy? Is it constantly relaying messages in the background?
Vibes
It’s a chat app built on the BSV blockchain — messages get stored permanently on-chain. Think of it like uncensorable Twitter DMs, but public and forever.
insane addition.
@JSKitty peep this
Looking forward for the flight ✈️
Testing halo 😁
now you're starting to think .
@jack know anyone already working on permissionless DNS?
Really cool and love the old school simplicity - dark mode is awesome
HNS (handshake)
This is fantastic. Cannot wait to see what’s to come.
Thx, I didn't know that one. Still it is yet another "buy my token scheme". We do not need that. You can do it on Bitcoin directly. Send regular a tx with one extra output with a less than 80bytes op_return. That contains the hash Id of a registration.
Registrationss are kept track on a side chain. Each registration holds one or more claims. Each claim assigns a too level domain.tld to one or more holder key ids (public key hashes) and an optional signature, requited to prove ownership for claims that change already owned domains.
Once the bitcoin block holding the tx that confirms the registration is confirmed, so is that entry on the mempool of the registration protocol.
This provides source of truth for both domains and TLS certificates, which must both be signed by one of the domain owner keys to be valid.
wait. Fiat mine = work? *takes notes
Nice
Amazing! The Nostr transport layer is changing everything.
Thank you Jack and team.
Any kind of music festival or large protest has the same issue.
In Nimbin during the mardigrass every year same thing happens.
10 thousand people show up to a town of a few hundred. Half of them try to Livestream etc. nobody has phone reception the entire 3 days.
awesome, seamless shit 🙏🔥🔥
Yeah… mining shit that’s printed by a bunch of cunts in Washington 🫣🫣🫣
Thats going to make it significantly more useful already. But what is missing at least from 0.8 is a way for me to actually use it. Nobody near me is going to have that so it would be nice to have a notification if it manages to connect. Because theres no way this will be a use to me at home outside of emergencies. But it would be fun during travel to more dense areas as there it may pop up. But it I actively need the app open I wont nptice.
Its an android thing. Android takes location VERY seriously. If your location is turned off its not just GPS. Its any identifiable thing near you which includes bluetooth and wifi data.
LFG
This is golden! 🏆
Is there a release date for official version of bitchat for android ?
bc some fall into this trap:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.hostingduty.bitchatwhoah
Should we add this to Orange Pill App?
View quoted note →I had my son download #bitchat on his phone and we couldn’t find each other!?
All network access on, both iPhones, in the same room.
No worky for me 😞. Yet
View quoted note →Gangster 😎
Id still want to verify myself, but would be cool if you could touch 2 phones together for private message part and somehow the phones would highlight the encryption keys on each phone w matching letters, if not a match on both phones then no highlight.
Also this is really cool to continue talking on Nostr.
favoriting someone you meet on bitchat in person is a form of “proof of personhood”. a potential way to rebuild the internet with more clarity around who is real versus bot
Bitchat has surpassed Signal in the Top Free Apps list ranking under the social networking category on Apple app store.
It's going have Nostr integrated into it very soon. Have a great day!
I accidentally read, “basically people can bitch-at in person…” and now will not ever be able to think of it any other way
👏🏾👍🏾
the appstore version fails me at home
is the testflight open?
they have 100k downloads and 1.3k reviews??? wtf is going on?
very great
working to connect NPUB NSEC to BITCHAT
cracker npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m
Epic
Can peer0 pay peer3 in this example?
I understand that both parties being offline has a double-spend problem, but is this mitigated by internet connected intermediaries?
Can the offline peers sign the events and the online peers publish them, for example?
so the play store link is legit?
👀
Build WoT
Yes it us an Android thing thing but there are ways around it, just ask AI and you will see.
Real world example:
VictronConnect is a fully developed app for Victron solar devices that monitors, controls and even updates firmware of these devices, all over Bluetooth. Older versions of this app needed location permission only (NOT PHONE LOCATION SERVICES ENABLED) for it to work. Back then they showed a popup saying app location permission was required by Android and they don't want or collect user location data.
I just installed VictronConnect on a new Pixel with latest Android and now latest version of this app does not even need location permission. I connected all my Victron devices and updated FW on them yesterday, all over Bluetooth with phone LOCATION SERVICES OFF and NO location permission given for the app.
@calle admitted to
@ODELL on
@CITADEL DISPATCH he is not an Android developer.
The app I used as example is from a large reputable company, their app was certainly not just vibe-coded in a few weeks by people inexperienced in Android development.
What does it say when a large corporation like Victron Energy cares more about user privacy than
@jack and
@calle.
These people purport to be privacy oriented individuals but seem to be quick to drop their drawers for this new shiny thing.
Please tell me why anyone with an inclination toward privacy would want to run around with a Location Services enabled phone.
Android Location Services turns on:
GPS Hardware
Wi-Fi Positioning
Cell Tower Triangulation
Bluetooth Location Services Location APIs
Background Location Updates Location Caching
Geofencing
Sensor fusion
Is this on Android play store yet? What is the plan?
Ok, heard from
@calle on X that it's up for review!
Ooh that's a great point.
The current iOS release uses Nostr as a backend if you are out of BT range. It's live in the app store now.
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Why purple?
This is the one I have installed? Is it not correct?
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