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non threatening huh?
An emotional gay man with a pistol in his hand is all the notice I need to put a slug in his head before he shoots me .
Everyone who is an illegal alien must get out or face the consequences...
Shooting non-threatening people is wrong. All of the more complex political issues that caused the folks to exercise their first amendment rights are irrelevant with regard to the shooting.
Found the boot licker. Looks like I'm buying another firearm!
“Non-threatening citizen”… goes armed to obstruct a federal operation. Gets in a fight with the federal agents, gets shot when they see the gun. What was he expecting would happen in that situation? He got the FO part after the FA.
So by "obstruct" you mean "exercise 1st amendment rights to observe police," and he got shot for exercising his 2nd amendment right to do so while armed.
The last 2 people ICE executed were American citizens.
Thank god for Nostr - the last bastion of public discourse where right leaning folks are still willing to criticize federal overreach
Lawful concealed carry permit holder, defends a woman be being brutalized by a masked agent. Gets pepper sprayed and tackled, his gun is removed and then he is shot 10 times. The states boots are already clean my dude.
The first amendment prevents Congress from making law to abridge inherent rights within structure of BoR. You already have -Peaceably assemble. Petition for redress.
Such silly takes from people who don’t understand what is stated, what inherent rights are, what structure of constitutional republic is intended to protect us. This goes to a separate structure now. To the judiciary. You should know the difference. In real time in the real world, actions/consequences happen. Parchment protects nothing. It’s responsibility.
Lawful sure. He can have a permit. What he lacked was a brain and good training. Knowing that you have a gun on you, would you get into a fight with federal agents while they are conducting an operation? How is that “My FiRsT AmEnDmEnt”?
So the law enforcement method you support is murdering an unarmed man because he was at one point armed but not brandishing? Goodbye second amendment.
You do realize these rights only exist if people exercise them.
He clearly wasn’t “observing”… He FA and FO. Maybe the shooting wasn’t necessary because he was already surrounded, true. But he got there looking for trouble and he did find it. He wasn’t just standing on a sidewalk
You do realize these aren’t real protests, right? This is all an orchestrated move against the rule of law. All paid and organized by NGOs and left groups. They are there provoking and obstructing. Does that qualify him to get shot, no. But he was fucking around and officers aren’t. Same with the lady on the Honda SUV. FAFO.
This is an argument of a statist cuck. Why exactly are you on nostr? Seems like you would be happier on a state run platform like X, meta or TikTok.
I beg to differ with you but it’s always a good idea to buy lots of guns, for everyone
Here comes the ad hominem because you can’t defend a point with words and good arguments.
You make no argument. You throw out an unrelated point - The PrOtEsterS ArEn’T ReAl!!!!
The protestors have rights. You don’t have to agree with them but you do have to respect those rights or you will be called a statist cuck. It’s not hard.
Oh no the people I disagree with are getting organized!!
You are the type of person the founders warned us about.
One thing is getting organized organically… other one is getting funding from NGOs and leftist politicians to block federal agents and provoke acts of violence. Good riddance.
You are still changing the subject.
The state murdering people who are protesting is what they do in Iran.
Iran would claim the protestors are all cia plants, enemies of the state. This is what the state does. This is what you are doing to justify tyranny.
We are not known for humor, but we did LOL out loud at
@npub162fa...ttkj and his whinny comments.
When I first started paying attention to Bitcoin I remember people talking down about you because of Casa supporting ETH and didn’t look any more into it.
But every time I wait to hear a Bitcoiner say something that has no political bias, just calling it like it is… its always you who says it.
Always spittin FACTS.
Heh, certain Bitcoiners couldn't admit that stablecoins were important. We chose practicality over ideology because Casa is a business, not a church.
The market has validated our thesis.
Fascinating to observe lolbertarians refusing a population's natural right to trespass illegals from their property.
These folks would have supported the Communists who have killed 100m people.
When I see that such people still exist, I see just cause to acquire more firearms.
View quoted note →get out of the way so hostile invaders can be removed
Always knew you were a woke anti-libertarian faggot.
View quoted note →Thats the gayest thing I ever read dude. Grow some dignity.
You forgot he loaded a Sig P320 aka the Auto Kablooey 69000 because it randomly fires itself. That is what got him killed. It is unfortunate but that is what happens when you provoke people already on edge. Its just common sense and survival instincts barely anything to do with state vs anti state.
His gun accidentally discharged
Gabe is your sock puppet isn't he.
NO
Bootlickers gonna bootlick 🤷♂️
His gun was in the hands of a federal agent when he was shot 10 times.
Norm claimed he “violently resisted" and that an agent fired, fearing for his life. So which is it? Don’t lick the boot.
Exactly
Amen
Well, I think that's a matter of perspective.
Sorry to hear that you're unable to differentiate between angry yelling and actual physical danger. You definitely should not walk around with firearms.
So you were always retarded? Got it.
First time I agree with you on something
MOTHERFUCKERS GOT WHISTLES!!!!!
This did make me laugh though…
Should have just used the second line, it would have stung more. True, probably should have more dignity.
First sentence makes you come off like a teenager who is trying to hard for validation though so it ruins the whole point.
JFC. Someone just got his #OnlyDans membership revoked.
Like it or not it’s stupid to resist arrest from kitted out guys as a guy with a pistol. You’re going to lose that fight every time
Not licking any boots… you probably are some European criticizing the US. Other states like TX, LA, FL have had waaay more detentions by ICE and 0 issues, BECAUSE there isn’t an organized provocation but instead the local governments collaborate with the operation. This narrative about the Trump admin being “like Iran” only eats it someone that either doesn’t live in the US or is so radicalized to the left that can’t see the truth.
Yup. Not that presenting these facts will matter.
Meaningless. If ice is directed to behave harshly in specific jurisdictions especially dense urban ones they will get the violence they seek.
But this is a distraction from the fact that the United States has deployed an unaccountable paramilitary onto its streets. The fact that it is concentrating that effort in the enclaves of the current admins political enemies is probably not on accident.
Dont you live under a government that ceized the bank accounts of peaceful truckers?
Maybe fix your own country.
@makeheroism great info right there. It’s the truth. In numbers. Only deranged people can’t process that in their brains.
Those 9 counties probably represent 70% of the us population. “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”
But I guess you can tell yourself whatever you want as the bodies pile up.
"about 6.7% of the U.S. population reside in those counties."
Literally 10% of the number you presumed.
Dang. The numbers really aren't working in your favor today are they?
For reference here are the numbers.
"• Essex: ~0.88 M
• Cook: ~5.18 M
• King: ~2.34 M
• Multnomah: ~0.80 M
• San Francisco: ~0.83 M
• Los Angeles: ~9.76 M
• Hennepin: ~1.27 M
• Denver: ~0.73 M
Total ≈ 22.8 million residents"
Ice is not deployed in most of the country. The counties where ice is deployed are all that matters. Those counties are the most populated and have the largest ice presence. Places where ice aren’t deployed are not relevant.
So yes these 9 areas with the high density of people and ice agents see the most violence is not much of a stat.
"Those 9 counties probably represent 70% of the us population"
Shown that this is objectively false
Moves to
"Ice is not deployed in most of the country. The counties where ice is deployed are all that matters."
So that you can say
"So yes these 9 areas with the high density of people"
You lost. It's time to shut the fuck up now.
Do you think comparing ice activity in 9 counties to the thousands of counties (where ice has not deplored en mass) is a fair comparison?
Don’t be retarded.
Yes I mistyped the stat, i assumed you would get the point that ice deployments are not uniform and so it’s meaningless to point to Los Angeles and cry that the most popular is county is part of most of the violence. Like duh dude.
You didn't mistype. You're now lying to try to cover for your bullshit.
I don't care about fairly comparing any of this. ICE should probably be in every single county rounding up illegals. There are over 50 million people in this country that shouldn't be here. That's the reality of this situation. Over 100m if you count people here on employment visas forcing Americans to compete with the rest of the world for employment in their own country.
Me don't be retarded? You just said that counties that make up 7% of the population make up 10x. It wasn't a mistype. It was a horrendously exaggerated figure to try to argue a point that's insane.
ICE deployments should be uniform. They should be everywhere. Wanna know why? Cause there are illegals in ever county in the country.
It's not meaningless. You can plainly see that the way things are going in any county in Florida is very different from how things are going in these 9 counties.
Stop playing pretend. Stop trying to lie. Stop gaslighting. This shit isn't going to work anymore.
I'll say it again. You fucking lost. Your argument is finished.
Fool yourself all you want. Deny numbers and facts to keep living in your bubble. In 2010 no one “protested” when the same guy, Tom Homan, was directing ICE ops. In fact, Obama awarded him a medal for the record number he got to deport. What changed is that now is Trump the acting president and leftists need to oppose to whatever he does, no matter what.
The way I’ve was operating was not equivocal. I lived in Los Angeles during the Obama years. The ice presence was minimal.
You've already shown that you're willing to bend reality to fit your argument. You lost. It's time to move on from debating this. You can't handle reality for what it is.
Look at the ice budget now vs under Obama. Look at the number of ice employees. Obama deported millions and was the high water mark. He didn’t have massive goon squads rounding up day laborers at Home Depot. He used data to be more targeted and focused on criminals instead of shear numbers. He didn’t set up large camps in swamps.
The tactics under trump are designed to be visible and intrusive.
This is obvious if you are paying attention.
Imagine defending Obama in 2026. Just imagine.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Look what they've done to you people's brains. Hahahahaha.
Imagine thinking I was defending Obama. I literally pointed out the difference in approaches. Your partisan brain is cooked. Just a mush of conspiracy and daddy issue.
What's the difference between pointing out the difference in approach and saying one is better vs defending?
Tell me the very specific difference? What is it?
"Your partisan brain is cooked"
Same ICE director. Actually substantially less deportations from what I can tell. But less people are coming in.
I haven't defended Trump. I actually think he needs to increase the amount of ICE agents within every state (I've said this already).
But yeah. I'm the partisan one.
Reddit tier ad hominem gobbledegook.
You're bad at arguing. You've proved you're a liar. You have zero self awareness and your points are moot and have all been proven wrong.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's time for you to give up. You've lost.
Legal ones too
I brought up Obama specifically because he deported a lot of people and did so without a heavy handed approach. Perhaps he was able to work with blue cities in a less adversarial way, though leftist tend to see little difference between Obama and republicans so I recall there being far left outcry to deportations.
I don’t really care about immigration. I see it as mostly a non issue. I think it’s being used as a political weapon and a way to stretch the boundaries of state authority. Eventually the large nation state will fall and all this bluster will seem so retarded.
Yeah you seeing immigration as a non issue is what makes you my enemy.
It's the only issue.
I have no loyalty to a nation state. I’m American by accident of birth. These days I align more with the internet and freedom than I do with any country. The state and the existing system are a set of rules I didn’t agree to. State violence is the everpresent specter that enforces these rules. Your support of state violence against people challenging these rules make you an enemy of human freedom.
Yeah yeah more technocrat transhumanist slop.
Your opinion of me or of my morals is worth less than nothing.
You don't have a thought in your head.
Cool story. Hopefully you get your fill of some politicians shit.
Kristi Noem: "I don't know of any peaceful protestor that shows up armed and with ammunition..."
2A for me but not for thee.
View quoted note →It's literally always dudes that look like you...r AI picture.
Correct there was close collaboration because ICE wasn’t roaming the streets in masks harassing people. They were working within the normal process and within their mandate. Imagine thinking today’s version was the same as 9 years ago.
Feel free to ignore the various infringements we have seen from this new way of interacting with the public. Lick boots think less.
Just more stating things as if they're fact with nothing to back it up.
I don't imagine they're the same. Obama was also letting in millions of migrants while he did his deportations. It was a real revolving door at the border.
Feel free to ignore blatantly obvious differences to have more made up nonsense arguments.
Stay losing faggot.
A real revolving door? Evidence please….Actually never mind I don’t give a fuck. The bottom line is that if ICE can’t enforce the rules without murdering people or trampling the constitution it should be disbanded and reformed.
As I said I don’t really care about immigration, I do care about the rights of people to free expression and to live without the threat of state violence. If you boot lickers want to destroy the bill of rights for your pet issue at least have the decency to own it. Wear it proudly. Come out of the closet in your best brown shirt.
It's very easy to find this information. I don't know why you're incapable of looking for yourself.
Approximate Total (Obama Years)
Official deportations (removals)
~2.7–3.1 million
Returns & border turn-backs (broader measure)
4.5–5+ million
Estimated new unauthorized immigrants joining population (flow into U.S.)
~2.3–2.5 million (estimated)
If you want rules enforced and people refuse to comply some people are going to get hurt or die. That's just kinda how that works. I know you live in fantasyland but that's not reality.
The constitution hasn't existed since (at least) the end of WWI.
Do you think any of the freedoms you do care about could possibly exist without nations? Without enforcing other laws? Without enforcing immigration laws?
You probably have zero care for the demographics of your country but you most likely live in a place where you're surrounded by white people.
You don't believe in the bill of rights if you don't care about immigration. You're just trying to win when you've already lost.
Your numbers appear to be as retarded as your sense of freedom.
Historical Immigration & Enforcement Estimates (1993–2026)
Clinton (1993–2001)
~12–13 Million encounters
~12 Million total removals
+4.5 Million (Growth: ~3.9M to 8.4M)
Bush (2001–2009)
~9–10 Million encounters
~10 Million removals
+3.6 Million (Peak at ~12M in 2008) change
Obama (2009–2017)
~3.9 Million encounters
~5 Million removals
-0.7 Million (Slight decline to ~11.3M) change
Trump (2017–2021)
~2.4 Million encounters
~2 Million removals
-0.8 Million (Decline to ~10.5M) change.
Biden (2021–2025)
~11 Million encounters
~4.4 Million* removals
+3.5 Million (Rose to ~14M by 2025) change.
Obama and trump 1 roughly similar. Eat change. Biden big positive change but way more encounters than Obama and trump 1 due to geopolitical events
Your fixation on immigrants tells me you are low skilled and low iq and all these low skilled peopled are a threat to your livelihood. I guess I might be big mad and become a nationalistic tool as well if I had no ability to make a living on my own. You sound like someone living off the government.
Here are the citations
WLRN
PolitiFact FL: DeSantis is right, Obama deported more people than Trump did
Federal data — tracking removals, returns and expulsions — shows Barack Obama deported more people in each of his terms than Trump did.
Factually
how many illegal immigrants have been deported under O...
Executive summary
Official counting methods matter: on the narrow, formal “removals” metric used by DHS and cited by analysts, the Obama admi...
Of course you're going to go to this nonsense of "low skilled"
You're such a fucking typical moron. Like I don't know how much more stereotypical you could get.
Have you ever had a thought?
"I'm sensing from my crystal ball that you're low skilled and are threatened by me not caring if we import a class of slaves that would take your potential jobs"
Orrrrr I think the people in my country should care about all the people within my country? Including the low skilled people?
This isn't even getting into the fact that college graduates that were born here are being disenfranchised by employment visa programs.
You're seriously one of the most retarded people I've interacted with on here. And that's saying a lot.
They were Enemy combatants that got what they were asking for . Illegal aliens must get the fuck out or face the consequences. We allow ONE MILLION PEOPLE per year LEGALLY into this country. We don't need or want Illegal immigration who steal from us..
