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He doesn't think Nostr is the solution? Yikes.
Why do people think nostr isn’t the solution? Seems obvious it is to me. Its crazy how much better it’s gotten
Global town square is redundant anyways, towns are local and global is global. Nostr is both. X cannot be local because it is governed by global policies.
X is for fiat maximalists. You either freedom tech or you dont.
And bro is larping on X 😆🤣
left x and joined nostr 3 years ago. it’s insane how good nostr works nowadays. I don’t care about x and i don’t need 1bn idiots and bots on nostr.
Quality > quantity.
we have the ability to add identity to ALL existing apps and he doesn't think its the solution
signal over noise sir
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These people don’t want solutions, they just want to complain.
Ngmi
Theres a few reasons why NOSTR cant replicate a centralized app numbers when it comes to engagement and reach. The number one reason is most of the traffic is fake and scaled to make it appear much more busy and this creates a network effect thats hard to replicate organically.
I also joined Nostr in it's infancy 3 years ago. Left because I "felt" there was much more engagement in X. Didn't realize X:
- Never engaged my posts.
- Shadowbanned the whole fckn time.
- 90% of my followers were Nigerian scammers or bots.
- Finally suspended me for no reason at all. (I never even monetized my account)
Came back to NOSTR and can see an insane amount of improvement, ease of use, and simply GREAT QUALITY content.
I'm back for good!
Nostr is the only social platform I've stayed actively engaged with. Never cared much for Facebook, nor Twitter, didn't even bother with Tumblr or Instagram. Nostr is where it was easiest for me to find communities that I wanted to be a part of.
Nostr is my solution. #nostr only 💜
#Yestr
This is unfortunately the truth for a lot of people
Dude explains why nostr is the answer and then directly after says he doesn’t think nostr is the answer
The Nostr is the most incredible filter for independent thinkers. That post has to be irrational bait.
I have no idea who this fool is but I am sure he writes big brain threads. Let's dive in 🧵👇🏻 lol
People like the IDEA of churning their own butter, but not so much the work of it😂
X is the town square for village idiots.🃏
I think #nostr is quite global! As #bitcoin is global! Everywhere around the globe there’s people waking up! Is it mainstream? No!
Same here! Great decision. I don't have any access to mainstream social media and I don't regret it at all
I’m going to start spending more time on here also! Nostr ftw
nostr is not for "the global town square" . its for independent, multifarious, parallel communities, something twitter cannot be. they're different visions.
and wait for the clients looking to make a YouTube in NOSTR to work, if this works, it will be like going back to YouTube in 2008
maybe @Roland can join the conversation about this here since it has more people commenting on it here than on dedbird
I do not find the idea of a global town square to be desirable and I'm tired of people assuming it is.
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He made the same post atleast
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Thanks didn’t see it 🤙
I don't know the people in the bitcoin space (I am more offline than most), but this bloke has to say why he does no believe Nostr is the solution, not the other way around...
Does anyone care he is not in Nostr?!?! Does anyone care who is in which social media?!?!
There are no solutions only, compromises.
And why do we care about complainers, again?!
And you never moved to Nigeria?
And why do they keep talking about it if it's so irrelevant?
Indeed he suffers from lack or logic skills.
It's because nostr is still just federation relays, once we have a p2p version thats as easy to use as nostr, with zero servers, that one will be the winner.
He suffers from algorithm addiction I think
We are talking numbers there will never be more than 21 million. Im not talking about platform ks better im just talking numbers and ability to reach normies faster or attract people faster. X will always have a bigger number of users than nostr because it has the ability to make up those numbers, this creates fake engagement that attracts real people as well.
That's not what this guy (who ever he is, I don't keep up with bitcointwitter only bitcointwitter2akaNostr ;);););) ) said. He said nostr isn't the solution to a global town square. That seems a bit more specific. And a lot of people on nostr seem to have said things very similar. Nostr is more niche than that sort of function. So it's not that odd a statement really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The "Global Town Square" framing is the trap. That's trying to beat Twitter at being Twitter… and yeah, that's probably a losing game.
But that's not where Nostr gets interesting.
Forget social. Think about every handshake deal you've ever done. Every time you agreed a price, a scope, a timeline…. and the only record was a text thread on someone else's server. Or worse, nothing at all.
Now imagine both parties sign that agreement with their own keys. Timestamped. Verifiable. No platform needed. No middleman deciding what happened.
Nostr isn't competing for your timeline. It's infrastructure for trust between two parties who don't need to trust each other because the cryptography already did the work.
The town square is a distraction. The real unlock is every transaction, every agreement, every reputation…. signed, portable, and yours.
People don't care yet because they're still thinking about posts. Wait until they start thinking about proof.
The "Global Town Square" framing is the trap. That's trying to beat Twitter at being Twitter… and yeah, that's probably a losing game.
But that's not where Nostr gets interesting.
Forget social. Think about every handshake deal you've ever done. Every time you agreed a price, a scope, a timeline…. and the only record was a text thread on someone else's server. Or worse, nothing at all.
Now imagine both parties sign that agreement with their own keys. Timestamped. Verifiable. No platform needed. No middleman deciding what happened.
Nostr isn't competing for your timeline. It's infrastructure for trust between two parties who don't need to trust each other because the cryptography already did the work.
The town square is a distraction. The real unlock is every transaction, every agreement, every reputation…. signed, portable, and yours.
People don't care yet because they're still thinking about posts. Wait until they start thinking about proof.
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Oh, Roland has left. “Bye bye, Roland!”
Wait, who is Roland?
Seems like one person out of everyone actually read my post. 🙂
I guess this is proof :-) anyway, I think Nostr is great. I just don't think it will compete specifically as a Global Town Square. That was the point of my post.
Why should we forget social? isn't the point that we own the keys to our speech?
Classic Retard Maxxing
You're right, and we absolutely should own the keys to our speech. That's not nothing.
But it feels a bit like we've been using a nuclear reactor to boil a kettle. Sovereign identity, cryptographic signatures, censorship resistance…. and we're, for the most part, using it to post takes and opinions.
"Forget social" wasn't literal. It was - don't stop there. Because right now that's where almost everyone stops.
Your signed post disappears into a feed. Your signed agreement with another person? That's a record that could hold up when money's on the line. That's reputation that travels with you forever... proof that doesn't depend on a platform staying online or a company staying honest.
Speech matters, we are all here using it for that. But what about everything else you do with your identity?
does he give any reason for why he doesn't think Nostr is the solution?
does he propose any alternative solutions?
can you expand more on what you think about nostr and why it is not a solution?
The exit will exist on nostr when he is ready. Certainly won't be anywhere else.
I think a single source of truth (like bitcoin for example) is needed for a global Town Square - rather than where each relay has its own data and policies. We get this situation where a client needs to connect to many relays with the outbox model and still misses stuff and things still load slowly. Or do I miss something?