Gm,
If you have a self custodial lightning address, please drop it below.
Feel like breaking some European laws today, since any anonymous Bitcoin payment is illegal to them lmfao
Will send you an anonymous payment from my node. It'll be our little secret ๐
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Wow that is fascinating.
Hmmm sth wrong with this addy, not returning payable invoice ๐ค
Why do you not have a lightning address sir, I just tried to send you BTC
Is nodless.io still gonna operate by any chance?
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We are an open source project now, anyone can operate their own nodeless ๐ซก
I host everything myself
I can't figure it out. Umbrel is not playing nice. Sorry.
GM ๐ซ
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Thanks ๐
Lol ๐
this is an on chain addy sir
Oops ๐คญ
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Sir this is a lightning invoice, not address
You're going to have a hard time breaking something that doesn't exist.
There is currently no European law forbidding anonymous P2P payments
Let's keep it that way ๐ป
Nice way to break this ๐คฎlaw.
badhomage904@minibits.cash
sullenring39@walletofsatoshi.com ?
just got 100. Thanks!
WAY TO DOXX THE CRIME MATE
Thanks for this, will have a look into it. Just began to have my own lightning node, but have to install everything again because bought a 2 tb ssd. The one now is almost full
Sir this is a custodial lightning address ๐ญ๐
Sorry Captain, I'm still learning and testing things.
Please write a short note on this topic.
well shit!
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Itโs a good learning curve. Yet to sort myself out with self-custodial LN address.
Self-custodial LN address is new thing for me.
what are best option? #asknostr
cleaningup12@getalby.com
Sir this is a custodian
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s@ts.dergigi.com
Sir this is an invoice
Count@minibits.cash
Ffs lol ๐ how do I present my phoenix

That work?
Sir this is still an invoice
Sir this is a custodian
Lol how does one present
matt@zeuspay.com
It should look like an email
My mistake
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Sir this is an invoice
It's too early, and I'm hungover my brain hurts
I'm tapping out
Guess phoenix doesn't comply because its semi custodial right
I give up lol ๐
Thank you for the patience and responding ๐
What you gonna do about that : harkad@zeuspay.com , Christine, huh?
How about an highly illegal KYC-free custodial address โฆ. 0x7774bd77aa1b3fc6@ln.tips
SORRY, SELF CUSTODY ONLY, WE DONT KNOW WHO IS TRACKING CUSTODIANS
florian@zeuspay.com
enki@zap.sovbit.host
SELF HOST ALL THE THINGS.
LNAddress self hosted: nick@klockenga.com
Freedom tech is the future
themptyuniverse@zeuspay.com
You law breaker!
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Not a single @OpenSecret in the thread ๐ค. Lawbreaking is literally their name.
bitbybit@getalby.com
I know Alby is custodial but this address is connected to my oen LND node
spacerunner@getalby.com
Thanks Sir ๐ซก
Custodian
Source bro trust me? ๐ค๐ซก
Like I do trust you but now you're trusting alby yah know
They are old US laws being reworked ;)LNBits lnurlp extension has lightning address
hades@lnbits.char0n.ch
You're right. It's a tradroff atm. Got my Zeus address too but not open channels yet. I'm moving my main node to another instance. What do you think about Ghost addresses offered by Amboss?
I have never tried it or looked into it so I can't comment ๐ซก
Lightning address hopefully in 2 weeksโข๏ธ
Any non-custodial LN address suggestions for non-highly technical persons, like Umbrel level users?
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I'm looking forward to this - lightning addresses are pretty much essential in my book for me to try a wallet - will I be able to map my own domain to it, like I currently do to Alby?
nabismo@zap.nostpy.lol , routes to tor node for extra illegality
w3irdrobot@vlt.ge
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donate@allesvoorbitcoin.be
The whole thing has been misunderstood by someone and amplified the other way around.
The ban on anonymous payments is on hosted (custodial) wallets, not on self-hosted wallets. It's bad as it is, but it follows the logic of the EU AML, if you provide money transmission services, you must KYC your clients.
I'd be more concerned about the use of CASPs (Crypto Assets Service Providers), an ad hoc made up term that could be easily expanded in the future, at ECB's will, to include whatever they want. CASPs are the ones who need to KYC their clients. For now that's mostly custodial wallets and ecash mints - since exchanges were already required to KYC to operate in the EU. In the future, they could use this term to include LSPs, lighting nodes, whirlpool/coinjoin coordinators, robosats coordinators, whole L2s like liquid, etc...
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glimaren@zeuspay.com
kalonaxiarch@getalby.com ๐
flirtingwithbitcoin@getalby.com
Yeeeehaaa!
Never gonna happen
Zeuspay and Blixtwallet seem to be popular
heateddrawer00@walletofsatoshi.com
nyoron@ln.bitdevs.tw
EU-pleb here, kevinrav@noderunners.org
Oh? ๐
Ash@21m.lol lets gooooo all sats get paid forward
I trust crypto.com
here is my BTC address. LEGAL
391H1QEQYuJw8UXwcbfdWbPW9JnxPJi2dp
P.S. I opened it when I lived in the UK.
pako@lnaddress.com
Let there be zaps
spottyrandom88@walletofsatoshi.com
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Ngmi
WHY?
NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS
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consider this option, for marginal privacy improvemrnt ๐ค
Introducing the "poor man's" wrapped lightning invoice receiver for your zapper node. This will be a more private way to receive zaps to your own lightning node with nostr:
Going to be most appealing for users of @Umbrel โ๏ธ and @Start9 or other node in a box products.
Step 1:
fire up an lnd or cln lightning node.. open a private channel with Stacker News.. use boltz to swap out 50% of the channel or so for easy sending or receiving balance.
Step 2:
Link your node with an ln address. a few examples for the less technical of how to do so:
- link your lnd node up with the amboss ghst. to ln address via thunderhub.
- follow my guide to link lnd with alby ln address here: View quoted note โ
- follow my guide here to use lnbits to link up cln or lnd with ln address here: View article โ
Step 3: create a stacker news account. in the wallet, attach your ln address and set it up to send sats from the stacker news wallet to your ln address from step 2 automatically.
Step 4: use the stacker news ln address to receive zaps in your nostr profile. Congratulation, you are now receiving zaps to your custodial stacker news acct, and those zaps are fwded to your node automatically, and much more privately than exposing your at home node on nostr.. thus, the poor man's wrapped invoice.
#bitcoin
#lightning
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self custodial = Self hosted ?
On Alby I hold my seed phrase
This is a great solution. Thank you so much for sharing! Any thoughts on Ghost addresses by Amboss? I've heard this could be harmful for privacy?
i think its not a ton different than using alby or any other forwarding address...someone is gonna see it but at least with the stacker news wrapper you mitigate the counter parties.. i use lnaddress.com ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Fair and necessary. With this it would be perfect for me.


counter parties is wrong word...just eont be exposing your invoices from yiur nide on nostr ๐ค
Where I live is also illegal, but they don't know it yet. ๐
johnny@walletofsatoshi.com
NGMI
zap@zap.stupleb.cc
Illegal zaps welcome.
gd the typos, lol. i refuse to edit! ๐
Yesssssssssssssssdsssssssss
Yeah you can with any lightning address
adopting the zaplocker? ๐
nosnevets@zeuspay.com
Sweet, didn't realise that
F yeah, just broke the law
nonstoptoe40@walletofsatoshi.com
sault@blink.sv
The EU eh, oh dear.
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Darthrider@zeuspay.com
zyrotin@zeuspay.com
It's an attack on lightning!
Hodl@zeuspay.com
Ln is the future ! #zapathon
bitcoinbrandon@zeuspay.com
abcxyz@getalby.com
Nevermind, you said self custodial.
Let's break some laws together!
uxellodunum@mint.proxymana.net
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Probably a bit late but anyway โฆ
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octaviani@stacker.news
To those who want to set up a self-custodial LN address, check out Zeus
View quoted note โ
Yo!
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trixie02@getalby.com
bizz@delta1.dev
mustardbulldog3@primal.net
redoz@zeuspay.com
burgundybullfrog1@primal.net
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marius @bb.mountainlake.io ๐
Except you are not breaking any law which is actually in force at this moment.
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Thank you ๐