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#suitcoiners
It seemed the situation was not so much about trump being good for bitcoin but alternative being worse.
I recall there being a lot of skepticism towards strategic reserve.
I remember pure memes and euphoria, invitations to conferences with standing ovations
Were you at the bitcoin conference or something? π€£
The suitcoin conference
I believe most America Bitcoiners knew Trump is full of shit but he was the only one who was willing to give
@Ross Ulbricht another chance.
I don't even like Trump but I haven't seen anything that doesn't make the best friend claim sound like a wild stretch.
"The community." What community? Bitcoin is used by tons of different people and will likely be used by tons more. There is no single community that reflects anything onto Bitcoin. It's going to be used by murderers, rapists, thugs, dictators, the worst. Was always going to be that way.
Yes
Are we really gonna pretend there isn't a Bitcoin community/influencers that all read the bitcoin standard and say we are so early etc on twitter and podcasts where most people who buy bitcoin get their information and drive the narratives/culture?
Yes π
This is why we nostr
That fedcoin was always crap. They couldn't convince on technical terms because better options exists (with freaking privacy included) so they turned the whole thing into a religion.
I hope you don't think Epstein is the only person alive that did the disgusting things he did and achieved that level of success and power
I do not, many such cases
Fucking sad bro. Iβm so glad I can say I never voted for Trump.
I'd do it again. Every president gets up to these kinds of shenanigans, but Trump is the most fun to watch. The other guys do all their crime in the background and have a slick and clean public image. Boring. Gimme that chaotic reality tv show president that does the same crimes in the open.
A community. A. Not the. There is no single "the community" and hasn't been for probably the very early days of the project. That's the closest I'd come to saying there was some single culture/philosophy/opinion/community.
It shouldn't be a surprise that more people leads to different ways of doing things.
We all want to believe that we are the community, but that's just wishful thinking. There isn't one. It's a myth. It's a lot of communities, and some of them are heavily opposed. This is why I only unite around one, maybe two principles. It always turns into this. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. All the other stuff is what you're imposing onto it. And I'm not even saying this is bad. I actually think it's a good thing. There shouldnt be a single community in charge.
Not all American Bitcoiners.
Open your eyes dude, thereβs literally decades of evidence.
"The community" doesn't even agree on strictly technical Bitcoin topics. Much less politics, reserves, etc.
And yet we still have open source developers going to prison, and I donβt see Ross campaigning for their freedom.
He was entertaining in his first term, that fun faded quick. It started going downhill when he ran his crypto scam before coming into office the second time, and then got progressively worse when it becomes obvious he was being led by Israel.
Open my eyes to what. That's literally what I said. I haven't seen anything that proves to me that Trump was best friends with Epstein in the implied sense that he agreed with what Epstein did. Guilt by association is a bullshit metric and isn't proof of anything else.
I guess Biden was fun too with all that Covid and Chokepoint 2.0.stuff.
He was only fun when tripping up stairs
Sharp as a tack dude. He could have won if they didn't swap with Kamala. He'd be eating ice cream during the commencement.
And if I missed something you think is important, point it out. Just telling someone to open their eyes doesn't help or make you right. I don't have a bias on him. If he did anything in that world then fuck him. But just associating with another rich dude isn't enough for me to condemn a man on something like that. Not Trump, you, or anyone else.
If you donβt believe me or donβt get it, I donβt have time to try to convince you, sorry.
That's a pretty big strawman. US bitcoiners lived through a pretty intense Cultural Revolution + persecution under Biden. Trump said he would free Ross (and did) and that he would not be so aggressive toward us. It's understandable why they would support him over Biden. I don't exactly see that as "hitching their wagon" to him.
There's a huge portion of the community that still fellates David Bailey and goes to all his shitcoin conferences. Refuses to critcize him etc. Why don't we start there?
Particularly not me, not sure anyone was as vocal about it as I was
David Bailey is a grifting shitcoining ordinal loving bubble boy
And yet many of the people that agree with your statement condemning Trump (popular) will not do the latter. They'll spend all day bitching about Saylor more or less doing what he said he'd do while Bailey rugged NAKA 99% and has an endless flood of shitcoiners attending his events.
Bailey is just a dude running a scammy company, he's not murdering people, centrally planning the economy and in bed with all of Epstein's clients, it's not even close to a look here but not there
Fiat ngu is all everyone cares about⦠they have no ethics
All of this was wel established beforehand but nobody seemed to care. Thatβs the part that rubs me the wrong way about this timeline. It will happen again and we are very far from resolving the current mess. What a shit show.
Youβre better than this, itβs an argument without merit. Most American bitcoiners were happy about the idea of the leader of the executive branch and his appointees not actively opposing bitcoin and thatβs what we got. As to your other accusations, your attempt to imply bitcoiners somehow attached themselves to the activities of Epstein and his ilk is slanderous at best. Disappointing coming from you.
Government makes people retarded.
The difference is: I doubt Bitcoiners currently have the ability to excise the Epstein class. They definitely have the ability to damage David Bailey.
Bailey's not some dude...if you recall he is one of the one's that facilitated an alliance with Trump. Bitcoiners could kill his company in like 18 months by shunning him and not going to his gay shitcoin conferences. But they all go. Not only do they go but they speak there and legitimize him.
Do you think Bitcoiners should have let Ross rot in prison to prove a point?
I don't think Ross is as important as the entire world, no. Yes I want him free but I wouldn't vote for a pedo to do it. And it's a gamble to trust the promises of a politician, at least he kept that ONE promise, unlike no new wars
I mean you haven't really presented anything to believe lol
That's a great way to avoid backing up an extreme claim though. I'll give you that.
And I'd point out that you had the time to tell me to open my eyes on a note where I explicitly said I haven't seen anything convincing. Why take the time to do that if you really don't have the time?
Am I being the asshole here?
Oh, don't be a sad leftist.
Lmfao, the only leftists are the ones who still trust politicians to centrally manage everything like maga retards
Itβs not remotely an extreme claim, and I am not interested in rehashing literal mountains of evidence that has either been public knowledge for years or covered up by people handpicked in positions of power for this purpose. It is not worth my or anyoneβs time to pull someone out of the Matrix who is content living with their delusions.
In retrospect it is easy to just say that. But it was not so obvious he was that deep in bed with the Epstein class. It is arguable that exposing how bad the problem is alone makes Trump getting elected worth it. We would have gotten the same wars + gay race communism with open borders.
It is way more inside bitcoiners locus of conyrol to evict David Shitcoin Bailey. It is not within our locus of control to evict the Epstein class. Bailey and those that refuse to criticize him are more responsible for a "lost bitcoin culture" than people that reluctantly voted to Free Ross. Respectfully, the priorities and perspective are outta whack on this one UTXO.
Disrespecting and not trusting politicians is a firm perspective for me, I cannot be shaken from this position
Trump running those beauty pageants over the years makes a little bit more sense now doesnβt it and didnt he have a modeling agency back then as well?
Where do you think he found Melania.
Yup yup
Leftism always makes itself known.
Yep, fucking leftists putting their faith in politicians smh
Thats great. Now lets focus on things we can control like fixing the bitcoin culture and telling the truth.
David Bailey, retard. ETF retard. Mstr retard. Nostr good:wisp_salute:
And yet a lot of "based" bitcoiners would not dare repeat that lest they lose business or a spot on a panel...
The worse ones are those commenting "leftists bla bla bla" as they still don't get it's not left vs right, it's not a footaball game.
I think technology as a whole is lost right now. Everything just feels off
He is right.
The worst ones are those commenting, "leftists blah blah blah," because they still don't get that this isn't about left vs. right. It's not a football match.
We were supposed to carry out a peaceful revolution through Bitcoin. This is the endgame: a quiet exit from a wicked system.
View quoted note βThe majority of Bitcoiners still canβt detach from their patriotism. I felt very alone on Nostr speaking out against Trump. He is not a human Iβd like to share a beer or room with, simple as that π
It seems the more moral cryptocurrency seems to be the one yβall are trying here, the Sats (at least for now)
Are you talking about Michael Seller or Larry Stink?
When do americans stand up against their war lords? π€·ββοΈ
Critical thinking skills maxed out: criticizing gullible fools makes one a leftist
That election season separated the men from the boys. So many losers revealed themselves.
The belief in "authority" is the cause. One will always be clowned if one things someone has the right to rule over you. Slave think is childish and disgusting.
Never wanted anyone but rogue, anti-central banking & anti-government people to use bitcoin. That's me all the way. #P2p, #MoE & #circulareconomy #anarchism #agorism
Facts, Things are way better than they wouldβve been under harris.
Lol are you Canadian or something? The US is the world superpower under Donald Trump.
All this revisionism is annoying.
The harris/biden presidency was hugely anti bitcoin, allowed open borders, had a heavily anti white agenda.
As poorly as trumps presidency has gone so far the alternative was WORSE.
S&p is at all time highs, gold near all time highs.
Itβs not trumps fault core devs decided to push through v30.
View quoted note βBitcoin is the ANTIDOTE to what America has become.
Let him live his live. He already lost too much of it.
You need to consider the alternative was Kamala Harris and the dumocrats. You choose the best you can.
Clearly American's chose incorrectly. They fell for a scammer grifter who made a lot of promises that may have sounded nice, but its like the school president election when the retarded kid says you'll have 3 lunches and 2 recesses if you elect him.
How fucking retarded did you need to be to believe that?
