Does anyone like anyone in this space anymore?

I think direction, goal setting, and progress indicators is likely more important than just throwing lots of money at something. I think that was my main mistake. we need some way of measuring if we’re winning and continually optimizing for that

Primal main source of venture capital is a guy that founded a failed Mexican solar energy company (literal glownigger) with money from Max Levchin and has no real success stories. This leads me to believe that he’s just a proxy by which people close to the US surveillance state try to financially subvert Nostr. But beyond that, Primal is architecturally compromised. It is a centralized service that prevents you from viewing Nostr the protocol and instead has you viewing Primal’s extremely centralized caching server, over which they regularly exercise the powers of censorship and editorial control. Most clients outside Primal have multiple relays by default, most or all of which they do not control. This includes Amethyst, Damus, Wisp, etc. If chooses Damus to block me on their relay, most people are still going to see my content because I am publishing to the other relays. Also most people can, via the relay hints provided by nevents when you quote a post, fetch my content from relays I post to even if you do not directly follow me or subscribe to my relay. If Primus blocks me from their caching server’s algorithmic feed, then I am silently erased and you will never see my content again. The only way this is different from Twitter is because people can take their nsecs elsewhere, but they provide no notice to users or opportunity for transparency as to what content they have removed. Nobody is afforded any report on what content Primal has explicitly put in front of their eyeballs, nor what has been removed.

They've been caught red-handed editorializing/censoring the Primal feed, and admit that it is structured algorithmically instead of by follows. They call it a “caching server” but that is Orwelliian doublespeak. Because caches do not editorialize or filter. They just prepare data to serve it faster. Though it is called a “caching server” and I have used the same verbiage, it is not actually a caching server. Its most notable feature is censorship.

yeah, its honestly weird that so much external money is getting poured into the one “client” that literally looks exactly like an op to break nostrs decentralization

I basically lost half my wealth in my separation so its desperate times

run it back

nvk literally invited me to his house with his *neighbour* miljan and their investor odell and tried to bring me into their little scammy cabal. Clown face me all you want retard.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zeus and it's the wallet I use the most but I cannot recommand it to a no-coiner, only to a Bitcoiner that have some concept of Bitcoin, Lightning and ecash already.

What would be that way? What do we measure?

its been something i've been thinking about a lot and not sure i have any good answer yet. but ideally some kind of funnel that we can track the entire onboarding process of each new user and have follow ups with feedback when they don't come back.

i like you john 🫂

Same!

You seem aight.

False & John I like ya both

Impact, in which ever metric makes sense for the project. That does not seem to be a priority and a lot of money in the space goes to waste.

Yes.

Amen. Spark is the CBDC

We have NWC, Cashu, LN, there's absolutely no reason to use spark than wanting further control and visibility of all payments made.

Spark integration was the logical next step here.

I feel the same way I wouldn’t recommend Zeus to a new person. But I can try this weekend with my barber!

No lies detected

frenemies.

Sorry for your loss. Cutting that cord is consequential.

To you guy’s credit I greatly reduced my usage of Primal and now mostly post via Damus and Yakihone. Still don’t trust any of you 🤙

Its curious its "CEO" seems to live a life completely devoid of hard work. Behaves much like a "weather bunny" frontman for the actual directors and managers. You make opensats look like an NGO for funneling covert finance to support activities that are unprofitable on their own.

Seems you were always right.

please tell my fiance that

210 million says or this is just hand-waving. View quoted note →

And the caching server doesn’t even load that fast either 🙃. Using Nostr Directly is better.

i know right. its so dumb

We live. We learn. Life goes on.

He saw it firsthand and tried to warn everyone.

Is @npub1qny3...95gx involved too?

Never trust anyone who would invest in a company that keeps a naked man running around in a forest on its payroll. Words you can live by.

Talking about Paul? 😂 maybe there’s some kind of sex cult they’re all in

A paulicule!

I’m still processing this whole Coldcard bug/scam situation, but something feels off. But I feel @jb55 was talking about another scam.

I like you

I think your question has been answered

lol

No GFY

the scam that was readily apparent at the time is that NVK and miljan were producing obvious subpar products, but Odell was giving them money and promotion because it brought him the most social benefit. This is contrary to the concept of fiduciary duty, where a board member has a moral and legal obligation to act in the best interests of the mission of the nonprofit, as well as a violation of his fiduciary duty as an agent of capital investment, where he has the moral and legal obligation to act on behalf of the interests of Ten31’s depositors. That this twofold criminal violation of his fiduciary duties, both at the nonprofit and the venture capital firm he works at, lead to the largest cold storage self-custody loss in the history of Bitcoin, is a tragedy. But the legal and moral violations happened the minute he engaged in it, before the mass customer losses.