Nostr is dying. All the retarded devs are focusing on their ability to produce halfassed, infected code more rapidly with coding agents, instead of FINISHING their clients that they charge people money for. I'm done telling people about Nostr. 75% of what I see here is AI generated photos, shit boomer ass reposts and schizo memes, and Nostr devs bragging about this or that shit prototype they vibe coded in a day. I no longer feel comfortable inviting people to join Nostr. Misplaced priorities all around. I am done with people who use AI in production. How can you even justify that? How can THAT look good enough to you? This place just feels out of fucking touch. I don't want to build on this protocol anymore. I don't trust it, not with all this vibe coding.

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I think someone did. Can't remember what it was called. Still wouldn't address the fundamental problems of nostr, the nostr meta. Build a tiktok clone, and it will be filled with Bitcoin AI videos and etc etc. lol
I'm not leaving. I'm just done telling people about it until other devs stop vibe coding. If they don't, I will gladly watch this tiny platform die. It's this magical thing called feedback, something all devs are apparently allergic to.
I would have built an algorithm and included tiny local vision/language models to generate tags. I can architect an algorithm analogous to the TikTok algorithm better than Meta and Google by myself. But why should I build anything like that for a dying protocol run by hallucinators? It would see relatively large adoption for a Nostr app. It could go viral on TikTok if I timed it right... But... Just.. why? All the Nostr devs have given up, they're just vibe coding bullshit they won't use in 5 years.
I don't think you're ever going to get AI out of everything. That genie is out of the bottle, so your options are a nice cabin like Uncle Ted, or just hope its implemented well. Nostr is dying, but I think there are a couple reasons, the first being theres no market for decentralized social media. Basically no one wants that. Look at Bluesky, allegedly decentralized, and then they ran from that as fast as possible. People care about big networks, so as long as they are banning people like psychos in the pre-Elon era, people will stay on Twitter. The bitcoin content is insufferable. It takes a certain kind of person to want to read about the same thing all day, and thats what we've attracted. I actually miss the monero bros being here, just because it mixed things up. The best thing that you can do is use the bridges, bring content from outside nostr into your feed. The bridges suck, and miss posts, but its better than nothing
Feedback: blah blah "You're not doing it right!" "Don't be a hater! You're negative!" "We love our trash!" image
I ain't see no difference with X. Must people must be aware there are alternative. could be nostr, could be another emerging tech.
Thank’s for clarifying and my apologies if I misunderstood you. You’re deeper into Nostr than most here and that’s a valuable thing. You might be ahead of the pack.
You are not. Ai content in small doses is fine. When it is all I see, it's time to mute all traces of it
That is why it is dead. AI is toxic. If AI touches your product, it will not have mass market appeal. People are okay with a free chatbot they can choose to talk to. People are not okay with AI generated content or code. Anybody who thinks otherwise is out of touch. Why would I host a relay for AI generated content? AI agents are the death of social media entirely. We might still use it for news, but it will never be like it was. People won't be as easy to monetize because content is not interesting anymore. Its like half AI at this point. AI generated code is worse than AI generated writing. I don't care what other devs say about AI, they are foolish. How the fuck did we go from hating bots to loving "agents"... I don't want to talk to chatgpt on fucking twitter or Nostr. Literally five people want this future.
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SatsAndSports 8 months ago
Exactly! TL/DR: Welcome to open-source, where people work on what's important to them. If you don't like it, fix it - or fund it - yourself 😀
To me, nostr will always be a protocol, like https. Nostr is the permissionless layer of the Internet, which, if you are old enough, it harkens back to the early days of the net. You couldn't find anything but everything felt like a discovery. People just built it, no permission, just build shit. BUT Google captured the Internet (backed by DoD/NSA) and strangled it. Nostr can't die and be strangled as long as people run relays and you can set up a strfry docker in seconds. Agent code is as good as the person building it and auditing it. Current AI is an amplification technology not a human replacement. If you know shit about building you'll build shit. If you know more, you'll get more. Personally, I can read code and squash bugs but never had the time to build anything useful. AI coding has changed that for me. I prefer an agent supported IDE over just telling agents to build things. I would push back on one other point, people on X talk to grok constantly. It is clearly a value add to *their* experience. I agree about ChatGPT, built by an absolute psychopath and shitcoiner Sam Altman. Don't touch it. The government loves psychos.
I can relate. I think (or hope) you’re describing an early phase, not a failure. When barriers are low, noise comes first. Email took ~20 years, the web ~10, Bitcoin ~12 to reach real adoption. What matters now is better clients and better Web of Trust filtering. That’s how signal emerges without central control. @npub16x7n...a44x and @Amethyst are leading the way. Let’s see how far we get.
#2 image 1. The First look of the Science Fiction is for us 😍 View quoted note → 2. Another release from Zapstore for us 👇🏻 View quoted note → 3. Great news from Azzamo Blossom 😍 View quoted note → 4. Centralization is gonna die 👇🏻 View quoted note → 5. This pleb has wasted a lot of time 😮 View quoted note → 6. Everything has a bright side and a dark side as well 👈🏻 View quoted note → 7. Yep, we see it. Awesome! 👌🏻 View quoted note → 8. A very responsible Nostrich Father 👨🏻 View quoted note → 9. Efrat Fenigson’s signal was broadcast to the world via “Outsiders” show 🌏 View quoted note → 10. A Nostrich celebrated his birthday with a positive and humble heart 🥳 View quoted note → 11. Do you think Nostr is dead? 🤔 View quoted note → 12. Some popular Nostriches are enjoying 🏊🏻‍♂️ View quoted note → 13. This pleb is so glad on Nostr 😊 View quoted note → 14. We should attract this kind of plebs again to Nostr 👇🏻 View quoted note → 15. This is the way if you want to get into freedom 🫵🏻 View quoted note → #community_nostr_recap
Exactly. I’m doing this already, much better feed experience. I also unfollow people who are valuable but post 10 times a day 👹
“ Recently added a trending view for locally cached events. This allows you to find popular posts among the cached events locally, which often will be your following and some extra. This is a great way to stay engaged.” Can you do a video about this and share in a post?
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