Mass depression. I like it to brutalise architecture. Awful. No imagination or love. It's just joyless and soulless.

This is going to sound a bit out there. But I think a lack of psychedelic experience and religious devotion to reproduce the glory if heaven on earth have a role in this..

It's the cost of labor. Handcrafted work is much more valuable than mass production.

Yeah... As an electrician, I sure would like to be installing more chandeliers and less shitty recessed LED's 😑

That's what fiat money does

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Because spirders and other creatures like to live in those nooks and crannies.

If I ever build a house, I want those down spouts

While some degredation is undeniable, this effect is also caused by the bland designs having normal budgets. Comparing the ceiling of Versailles to a random room is silly. None of us are confused why our bookshelf isn’t like the library in Buckingham Palace lol

Over time the beautiful stuff is preserved, and the bland stuff gets thrown out.

Its not about beauty, its about making cheap look presentable, because Fiat has siphoned off our wealth and all that is left over is sterile, drab and lacking authorship. This was sold to us as modern and progressive, but when the illusion of the sale fades away, what we are left with is a barren concrete desert made of potash and gravel.

I assume it is the rich people refusing to pay taxes. I mean werent many of those beatiful constructions ordered by wealthy and powerful man?

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Greed and capitalism. Simple is much cheaper. New structures are also made not to last. That’s cheaper too. When you build things cheap, you can make lots of money and when the buildings soon rot, you can build them anew and make more money.

TBH, sometimes I just prefer the modern style, but not denying it is a loss in general

Brutalist architecture is torture for the soul, even the name says so

Fiat mentality in a nutshell

I couldn't agree more

Me too!

You are absolutely right about that 🔥👏🏻

Well no one is saying that every library should resemble Buckingham palace but at the same time it can have quality craftsmanship not to look so plain and dull.

I couldn't agree more 💯

Don't forget the main reason: it's cheap!

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Survivorship bias. The only antique interiors we can see nowadays are those that were too good to be remodeled/demolished.

One thing people overlook is you can hide your mistakes in the details of the apparently more complicated construction. Both have their place and time, it's the misuse that stands out. Good example to show this could be the original finished pyramids. Arguably modernist. But you should not confuse beautifully designed modern construction (very rare) with modern Fiat construction. People have and will always try to do the best with the materials and Technology they have access to. If the Egyptians had better they wouldn't have used stone. But most of what we interact with on a daily basis has less thought into the design then your toothbrush. It's just a check list to minimally satisfy insurance liabilities, not safety not the usage and definitely not the design. Has everything to do with inflation, you can have pride in your work but without funding only so much you can build.

I agree but don't confuse fiat construction with modern construction. Often the point is to impress if historical builders had access to the technology and materials of today the buildings would be incredible just because the available value was much higher.

All buildings work considered modern at some point in time.

Bitcoin will reduce construction of the minimally necessary construction.

today "the rich people" won't be allowed to build any of these buildings anymore. The states already collect enough money by taxation but instead of investing in the public interest they squander and pay for they own privileges (and their friends).

This is actually my favorite part of The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. It specifically tears into the tastes of the masses that are descended from the limits of the materials of the past. For example, all those pillars, arches, and the trims around the joints were all due to the materials that the ancient Greeks and medieval Europeans had access to. They didn't have steel beams so they needed arches and domes to hold up the roof. If they wanted a heavy marble roof, they needed the frequent Greek pillars because no wooden arch is strong enough for that. They didn't have welds or bolts so they needed wooden trims to hold the pillar in place. And a lot of the decorative things you see on buildings are ways to hide the ugly features that the materials exposed. Rand criticizes the fact that architects have adopted the features from these old structures, even though the underlying material reason for their existence no longer exists. The book criticizes the architects today that make new buildings and try to emulate those old patterns in them, as well as the absolute minimalist architecture (the right side of these pics) that just makes a purely functional building with nothing offensive and nothing in the realm of beauty. She advocates for aesthetic designs that use the strengths of current material and tech, and use them in ways that feels amazing even to people today. For example, the Greek Parthenon must have been world breaking at the time. That giant rock roof weighing tens of tons hoisted that high up with giant gaps between the pillars probably blew the normies minds at the time. But if you were to see a newly completed Parthenon today, it would look good, since your aesthetic preference is influenced by that, and the buildings that copy its features. But if you were not ever exposed to Greek architecture or anything based off it, it wouldn't faze you. Theres nothing impressive today about holding up tens of tons of marble. You drive under entire apartment buildings if you just drive through New York. A modern structure analagous to the Parthenon IMO is the CN tower. It looks like it defies physics a lot stronger than the Parthenon. You have a large structure on top of a much thinner smaller tower. Also don't compare everyday architecture today, to the multi-billion dollar vanity projects of ancient Greece or Rome. All those pictures are picked from famous buildings spanning over a millenia. You can find just as good looking and impressive structures in just the last 50 years.

So it is just a random fact, that taxation of the rich is decreasing while nation states depts are growing. You think those two things are not connected to eachother?

how this invalidate what I wrote?

It does not. But I also do not see, why rich people should not be allowed to build such structures. I think whoever has the money to spend can decorate their buildings everyway they are willing to pay.

this does not apply everywhere: for example, there are areas in Europe where you need the municipality permission even to change the color of your house, and you can only choose from an allowed colors palette.

Yes. These are rules to maintain at least some beauty of the village. But you seem to see problems in everything and not even trying to find solutions. Stop whining. The world is not as dark as you want it to see.

I'm not whining at all and not seeing problems in everything: just stating facts to support my point. anyway, I like my house exactly as it is right now, and the houses in the neighborhood as well (that's why I choose to live here)