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How can they say that with a straight face when they have all the algorithmic-feed apps in their store?!
Good Morning
That’s fucking wild lol
aren’t all the normies you’re trying to reach using iphones though?
Sad
🫵 Not gonna say told you sow 🤌 time is precious 🫂
If I ever needed an excuse to not build
@roadstrapp for iOS, here it is
Bummer. It’s my daily driver. Guess I will just make my own build. Fucking Apple is retarded.
Dang, this gives me little to no hope at all.
Damn it. Wisp is how I Nostr.
It'll be easy for you to build it, devs unaffected
Good morning ✌️🧡
Sad day for the normie.
Since when tf does apple gaf about giving users control. If you want control you buy an android.
Hahaha .... I get it. It can be frustrating with all these official application store.
The EU is one opening, though. Since 2024 the Digital Markets Act has forced Apple to allow alternative app marketplaces on iOS there, so EU users can install apps outside the App Store without going through their review process. Not a global fix, but it's a distribution path they can't reject.
2026 and freedom devs are still wasting their scarce time uploading freedom tech on anti-freedom bigtech app stores, yikes
This is how we... are getting censored, ironically. Has anyone made a fascist-styled Apple logo already?
Web?
GM 🫂 Why not a PWA ?
Honestly... I agree with them. I shouldn't have to design firewall and other network blocking techniques to preserve my privacy on nostr...
Yeah, Apple sucks. This is one of the reasons the Favilla KEY serves its own client to the phone as a PWA straight off the device. No App Store, no review, nothing for them to reject. Sorry to hear about wisp though, that's a lot of work to have gated by a reviewer who doesn't get the outbox model.
shame
i quite like what you've built
is the .ipa out there to sideload?
Good morning.
That sucks.
Their loss. 🤷♂️
second on this, please just distribute an ipa
Distribute it with homebrew
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. If you mean something like the complexity of this situation, how Apple is, for example, dependent on something else that makes their app submission so (far from the first time) ridiculous, that they are also hostage in this situation in some way—I don't argue that. I mean, though, that the classic postmodern kind of satire is still appropriate in this situation. If we'd talk to them directly there, that would be a different case; that wouldn't have a change to help.
I'm not a literalist there; I don't actually mean that Apple is fascist, just in case it's not clear to whoever reads it.
This is the dumbest take yet
Apple HFSP
I'm not gonna spend to build and distirube an app to 5-10 users, without app store it's dead
;_; I hope Rim Cook dies of that new antibiotic resistant sexually transmitted diarrhea
The thing I hate most about fixie bicycles is that you can’t backpedal.
Outbox is a direct tradeoff for privacy, no one can dispute that. Be upset all you want.
The relays you read from don't know who you are unless you auth. Just like llms, you are clueless. Stick to windows.
Oh right I forgot IP addresses and REQs can't be used to identify me in any way.
I don't think you actually use any technology, you just like to pretend you do.
You raw dog your ip then larp about privacy 🤡🤡🤡😊🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
damn.
yeah its a real concern, the idea of third parties controlling what you connect to and then monitoring your REQs. also outbox can make your client interact with rogue relays that could DoS you or send ads/spam to you for things that dont match your queries.
this was the main motivation for me to create nostrdb so that my clients would be robust to these kinds of attacks if we ever decide to have it as an option on ios (client only trusts results from nostrdb, relays just dump data into there)
set relay lists are still useful for organizations and if you just want to post to a platform that you trust, so i dont see it as outbox is always better. tradeoffs.
Client needs to validate notes back from the relay match the filters. For making a feed they cannot identify you with reqs, only notif
100% The list goes on in terms of security and privacy but you just named UX issues I hadn't even considered, was purely focused on the connection.
The stricter they become with their software and hardware, the more astonished their sheep become
GM, no other way for them unfortunately
Look into publishing through AltStore PAL.
You know it is not just the EU forcing Apple to allow alternative app stores, right?
People are paying for this censorship-as-a-service. It's the whole Apple business model.
There is a double standard. Things like the Facebook app allow others to share contact info and other data about you which you have no control over.
Fuck them! Keep building!
Can you hand the project over to someone? Obviously not me i hate apple.
If you want to create an official desktop repo, I'll gladly maintain a Linux port...
Apple’s App Review process: “Your app doesn’t give users enough control & connects to unknown relays…"
Translation: "Our guideline/work is mysterious and important.” 🤣 Apple be playing games.
GM 🫡
Why I moved away from the Apple ecosystem, I don't miss it. And don't regret it.
But...have you looked into
? As you have a Apple developers account now...
Thank you for not trying anymore. I think way more devs need this approach. As the world gets worse and worse people will realize they need freedom apps and need to switch to something more free than apple. I'm already hearing some of the bitcoin podcasters are finally attempting to switch to Linux. Nature is healing. Or at least I hope it is.
How did Primal get in?
From the beginning I'm stunned why people use iPhone.
You buy an iPhone, but you don't own it.
You can't install apps if Apple do not approve.
You can't change something as simple as a battery.
When you use third party hardware it's as hard as it gets to make it run.
As a whole is a terrible product.
GM fren 💜 Keep building for freedom! Apple shouldn’t make it this hard for open networks. Respect for not giving up on Nostr. ⚡🫡
@hzrd149 @Marininha @virshawn @npub1xwuf...smf8 @Bob 🌞🌍🌚 - 58oz Gang @sourcenode
View quoted note →GM fren Four rejections is painful. Keep your head up, your work matters. Nostr is about freedom and building without permission. 🫡🧡
GM Nostr ☀️🟣
Imagine getting rejected 4 times for building an open protocol app.
We need more freedom, more open-source apps, and less gatekeeping. Let builders build! ⚡🧡
#Nostr #OpenSource #Freedom
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View quoted note →I don't understand how people even buy a fully overpriced, locked-down phone like an iPhone or a normal Google phone which spies the hell out of them...
These companies know every letter you type, they know about every photo and document you upload, profiled in extreme detail!
hear, hear
GrapheneOS with zero Google apps or services installed. That's what I use.
Right now GrapheneOS requires you use a Google Pixel phone.
They are evil. They rejected my update after years of being in the App Store. Can’t hate them enough
So freeing to just download what I want from zapstore. Can't imaging being back on iOS 🤣
good. why were you trying to bring apple retards here in the first place
good news - no nostr on spyware devices
They just haven't seen these masterpieces.
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Just kidding, they don't care, unfortunately.
Also, GrapheneOS is an important step for solving it, but it's still not a solution to absolutely everything: any chip we have in the phones could be a malicious black box that has too much access to sensitive data (including so-called Trusted Executed Environments themselves; they could be used as honeyspots).
The only hope is open hardware. The RISC-V processors and so on.
Four rejections is wild. App store gatekeeping is the single point of failure nobody talks about. A direct APK has been the easier road for us too.
Fuck this noise. T minus 30 💥💥
And T minus 45 🛸🛸
Today is the 23rd for me & ima rock it 🧙♀️
😂 when they spy on my phone. I wonder if it says this action violates the biblical text and your practicing immoral and unethical practices. . .I pray one day my work red flags 🚩then. . .And on that day I pray 🙏 I get the proof 🤣
Besides my opinion on your decision and suggestions in my quote message, I'm sorry for you and your lost brain cycles while you've been in flight. PV 🫂
whit you fat fuck stfu would you?
Can you share full Apple"s reply?
Imagine somebody who claims to be a self sovereign, freedom and privacy minded person so dumb that they use crAPPLE products in the first place. And then participate in a crAPPLE humiliation ritual by begging and boot licking their way into the app store, only to fail FOUR times.
