FYI the US, Israel, and other western govts have been funding terrorists and directly supporting dictators and authoritarian regimes in the Middle East for more than half a century. Just in case you didn’t know. 😘 View quoted note →

As an American, I'm hoping bombs do land on the homeland and we get pamphlets about regime changes. Because we need one for sure. It's about time Americans see what their tax money is used for overseas and what it causes other countries. Then they will understand why other places hate US.

We need to make sure they don't attack us by pissing them off as much as possible

Uganda ... in retrospect

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You clearly don’t, imo. If even the benefit of 20/20 hindsight has you defending all of the *exact* same things that got us into our situation. You’re doing the equivalent of saying, “the only way out of our debt problem is to issues mire debt and grow our way out.”

No, you just think if I don’t fuck with anyone, they wouldn’t fuck with me and we can all live happily ever after, which is kinda delusional. Give me one good reason why Iran needs to enrich uranium to 60% and hides their centrifuges deep in the mountains. Just one.

Wait… what? How is Japan attacking the US in WW2 relevant here? 🤔🤨 Ok, I’m going to assume from this comparison that you aren’t aware of the very recent history of Libya and how it might be the exact reason things are playing out as they are. So after I get my son down for his nap I’ll come back and give my best TL;DR for you. 👍🏻

Arguing with deceiving jews is a waste of time. We should focus on applying political pressure at home to make AIPAC and other Jewish organizations register under FARA and ideally make it illegal altogether for foreign nations to influence our government, whether they register or not. Once their influence on our political system is greatly diminished, we can expect to see less foreign intervention on behalf of Israel and put a stop to never-ending wars in the name of our “greatest ally,” who is clearly blackmailing our nation. See Whitney Webb’s ‘One Nation Under Blackmail’ for more details.

Ok, since I respect you and we agree on a million other issues I’m gonna start with extending an olive branch. I’m not trying to call you stupid or anything despite my apparent annoyance in my responses. We just disagree and I’d like to actually explain what I think is happening and why this is a horrible course of action that will be utterly devastating for the Iranian people. There’s little reason for most to know about this, it’s openly avoided and suppressed in the media. I’ll also add that my brother’s @Jeff Swann fiancé is from Iran, is trapped in Canada due to the sanctions and Iranian immigration nightmare, and her family is still stuck in Iran. They hate their govt and in no way am I defending the regime in charge. To the contrary, I think it’s largely the fault of western govts that they are in the situation that they currently deal with. So let’s talk about Libya: In the early 2000s, Libya was one of the wealthiest nations in Africa (if not the most). They wanted to arm themselves as any sensible nation would. NATO and the US did not like this. As they had already rung the bell of “middle eastern country X is crazy psychotic and is trying to get a nuclear bomb to end the world” for decades at this point (and still is to this day) and just seem to keep swapping out what X equals. They played all the same cards with Ghaddafi in Libya; weapons of mass destruction, trying to get a bomb, violent regime, gonna mindlessly destroy the west, blah blah. Ghaddafi decided he had no desire to be the enemy of choice for the west and wanted to be seen as a friendly and cooperative partner. They became the literal poster child of disarmament and compliance, they welcomed NATO and played by all the rules. Removed all their nuclear and weapons programs and let the US and NATO check all their work in becoming defenseless. It went so far that the US and NATO even hailed them as the example *for* Iran, which is super ironic as Iran is probably behaving exactly as the Libyan example would teach them. So what happened? Within just a few short years the CIA began funding terrorist groups and rebel militant groups. In a relatively short span the rebels, with bizarrely deep pockets (shocker) kept growing and beckk ok ing more violent until in 2011, they toppled the regime, killed most of Ghaddafi’s family, and the rebels (literally on video) drug Ghaddafi out into the street and sodomized him with a bayonet for a bit before blowing his brains out. This was his reward for compliance after he got put in the “country X” blank in the endlessly touted propaganda talking point. The ultimate result was an externally funded civil war that destroyed the stability of the nation. Today, Libya is literally a failed state. They went from nearly the wealthiest nation in Africa to a violent, chaotic, human rights horror show ever since and last I knew there are multiple violent militant groups trying to gain control supported with weapons and funding by various external nations including China, the US, Israel, Russia, the UAE, etc. The rape, torture, political suppression, and murder of the citizens who got stuck there is just kinda part of the daily activities. This all happened barely over 10 years ago. SO… if I were in the position of the govt of Iran, whether I was an authoritarian lunatic, a libertarian, supporter of a strong republic, whoever I was - doesn’t matter - I would be absolutely certain of one thing: the US, NATO, and Israeli govts were not my friend. I would, as a rule, wake up and first thing every morning watch Ghaddafi get sodomized by a bayonet and repeat the words, “do not comply” 5 times in a row before starting my day. I would fully believe that unless I could defend myself, and possibly unless I had a nuclear bomb, nothing at all would stop them from killing me, my family, and completely destroying my country. Especially since my country had been “country X” spot just “months away from a nuclear bomb” since the 1990s. Now the Iranian govt is pretty awful, they *all* are, but I have absolutely no doubt that the US and Israel swooping in to “bomb the solution” into them means nothing but an absolutely horrible future for the millions of innocent people who live there - I would love to be wrong, but I feel it will turn out just like thinking Trump was going to massively cut the US budget. And I find it slightly ironic that you consider me the naive one, when you seem to believe attacking Iran will make this all better or do anything but make the risk of *all* of these horrible outcomes even greater. I can’t come up with any reason why someone in the Iranian regime would be so foolish as to think leaving their country defenseless was anything less than a ticket to be raped by a short rusty sword. And importantly, **this has nothing to do with whether it’s true, it’s just what someone with common sense would conclude.** Maybe Trump is different, but where’s the evidence of that really? 😒 I certainly don’t like the idea of Iran having a nuclear bomb, but I completely understand why they probably think they have no choice, IF that’s what they’re doing (I also have no reason to trust any of the bullshit spouted by the establishment and can’t fathom taking them at their word on this), as the only countries that the west does NOT seem to arbitrarily install dictators in, start civil wars in, fund terrorists to overthrow, or bomb to the ends of the earth, are ones that have nuclear weapons… 🤷🏻‍♂️ This is “Afghanistan attacked us, we must invade Iraq!” all over again. It almost even rhymes, “Palestine attacked us, we must invade Iran!” (Also funny that we funded Al Qeada in Afghanistan, and Israel funded Hamas in Palestine to destabilize them, create violence, and make the excuse for war easy) And Israel bombed Iran first on the *exact* same claims that they were “funding terrorists,” (the irony being that the two literal champions of terrorist funding are the ones banging this drum) and about to have a nuclear bomb to destroy the world. Because apparently literally every single country with too much oil and no nuclear deterrent has a death wish. I just refuse to buy the literal exact same lines again, and I think you are smart enough to realize that something doesn’t add up here. Personally I’m sick of being lied into wars and then pretending like “we didn’t know” when we find out later that everything they said was utter horseshit, which it always is. Seriously, have you ever even really looked at them when they are saying that “our sources know they are 🤏 this close!”? Netanyahu literally held up a picture of an ACME cartoon bomb with some lines on it that said 60% and 90% that were filling it up. Come on? They think we are all completely retarded and how they talk to is exactly in line with that. It’s always an absurd oversimplification, the proverbial “everything is a nail and here’s my trillion dollar hammer” of nation meddling, caused by the very govts who just need the next thing for their war machine. Sorry if I get frustrated that the never ending war machine gets their next war to solve the previous problems of the war machine terrorist funding by dumping ever more funding and control into the war machine. This is the fiat game. There is nothing but death and destruction on this path, and I just won’t buy the exact same line they have used over and over again. It’s just like Hollywood making the same stupid, generic film over and over again. They have their recipe and they just keep bringing it out every time. Whenever the justification of their infinite bank account starts to get the tiniest bit difficult, they swap out the characters and play the same movie on repeat, and if enough people don’t beleive it, they fund more violence and terrorism until people are convinced that bombing “country X” is the only way to prevent mass destruction. ———————— I hope you actually read all of that and give it the attention it deserves, without brushing me off as naive for thinking a war isn’t the solution to a problem caused by war, or that I’m just “sitting on the sidelines with my opinion,” when I suspect my family has more invested in the outcome than you do (though that’s a guess and I have no idea if you know anyone in/from Iran).

Ok Abdul, now go out and catch your goats.

I'm okay with pamphlets calling for regime change, but I would only want bombs dropped on nuclear, military and regime targets.

Totally agree with everything written here, Guy. One bit that never gets addressed - the past has happened, there are generations of engrained hatred, and Iran is quite open about its intentions toward Israel. So, if you were Israel and everywhere you look from your window you see threats, what would you do? i.e. let us assume they do nothing. Does Iran suddenly change its goals? And if not, what next? We wait until they can accomplish the goal?

Give me one good reason why US, UK, Israel, Russia, China, France, Pakistan or North Korea needs to enrich uranium to 60% and hides their centrifuges deep in the mountains. Just one.

Here's what I'd do if I had laid claim to land that was already granted to me illegally (see Balfour Declaration, Haavara Agreement): Don't ever be the aggressor in any case, invest only in strong defenses. Don't expand your country's borders further via settler colonialism by burning down and shooting at people who currently live on that land. Don't force native people into open air prisons under Apartheid. Don't run an international assassination and terror squad under the guise of a foreign intelligence service. Don't put "post future land grab Greater Israel" patches on your soldiers uniforms Don't commit genocides. Don't shoot at starving people seeking foreign aid provided post genocide. Don't have your officials publicly declare the previous inhabitants to be subhuman animals that must be eradicated. Don't run to the big brother (that you control via blackmail, monetary influence, religious zealots) after provoking the wrong enemy. I could go on.

It sort of seemed like Obamas trade deal was working. Trump's plan to renegotiate by tearing it up seems to have failed because he wasn't able to predict Europe and other countries choosing to circumvent the sanctions, limiting the impact to the Iranian economy.

The US has always acted like this. They invent enemies and attack them, pretending that they are a threat to the rest of the world. The goal, of course, is world domination and massive use of the dollar. When Republicans rule the wars are usually in the Middle East, when Democrats rule the wars are in Europe.

The US was founded on violence and terror. It’s in their DNA.

We all know that's not how wars work by now. There will be civilian(cash cow) casualties. Always is.

Given how targeted and ostracized I am, how nobody defends me, how nobody defends human rights in general while we keep slipping deeper into unconstitutional fascism - I've been worried about this in the US for a few years myself, and you should be, too. We don't get to just do this to the middle east while we're magically protected from it turning around on us.

Great explanation. Thx.

Kinetic war is my red line. I became a libertarian because of my opposition to the GWOT

We bomb/invade/disintegrate our enemies and tariff/taunt/spy/topple our allies. Why don’t they like us abroad?

Forward these zaps to a wallet that someone shoves into Ron Paul's pocket some day ;)

In no way whatsoever have I suggested that the solution is to say “please stop” and that this would work. This is a massive assumption. I’ve literally said nothing more than that the solution is NOT, “kill their sons too.”

Fair enough, that was a bit of a stretch, but it is based on what I hear ( if not from you directly. ) What I would say is when you say "who would have the courage to stop being a disgusting human being" my premise is that we know if one side stops, the other re-arms until such time they can try again, right? And furthermore, we should not imagine a regime that openly works toward the destruction of a country and our people share the moral view that they are 'disgusting' They think they are morally justified. They think they already have the moral high ground, surely?

I don’t think he has missed the point. Doing all those things, In particular not committing genocide and not deliberately starving children would go a long way to keeping Israel safe. While Israelis imagines they’re unsafe the Palestinians are literally being killed by Israelis who are feeling that they are the ones being threatened. Make it make sense please.

But you can't erase what has been done, right? One side openly says they would commit genocide if they could - they don't even hide it. You think if Israel stopped now, that goal would change somehow?

One side says it and one side does it. The side that’s doing it should stop. Like the old saying goes “dropping the equivalent of 5x Hiroshima’s A-bomb on me will break my bones but words will never hurt me”.

Here's a very interesting reply from an anon I read on X... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As an Iranian, I can tell you the situation is no longer just political—it's existential. We are trapped between two collapsing structures: one internal, one external. On one hand, we face a deeply dysfunctional government, led by the Supreme Leader and the Islamic Republic’s unelected institutions. Decades of economic mismanagement, suppression of dissent, and brutal ideological control have alienated multiple generations. No one believes in reform anymore—because every attempt has either been co-opted or crushed. But here's the paradox: We are also terrified of regime collapse—because we've watched the aftermath of Western intervention in countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan. Each was promised freedom; each descended into chaos, civil war, or foreign occupation. So no, we don't trust the U.S. or Israel. Not because we support our regime—but because we know how imperial powers treat ‘liberated’ nations in the Middle East. Freedom, in their language, often means vacuum, fire, and permanent instability. Right now, many Iranians live with three truths at once: The Islamic Republic is morally and politically bankrupt. The alternatives offered by foreign actors are not liberation—they’re collapse. A bad government is survivable. No government is not. We are not silent because we agree. We are cautious because we’ve learned—too well—what happens when superpowers decide to "help." In a sentence: Iran is a nation held hostage by its own regime, but haunted by the fate of its neighbors. We are stuck in a house we hate, surrounded by fires we fear more.

I keep hearing that. So the plan is to wait until one side that can't, eventually 'can?'

It is not possible to be victim of a genocide while committing a genocide. Maybe I’m the naive one here but I just can’t justify deliberately starving children to death on the off chance that the child grows up to be a freedom fighter (or terrorist depending on your point of view).

Violence & terror don't make countries rich. If it did then the Soveit Union would have grown instead of collapse & North Korea would be one of the richest countries in the world. Production & trade & economic freedom make countries rich. The US is collapsing because over the last 100+ years it has shifted from production & trade to violence & torror.

I used to interact with a decent number of Iranians on Twitter. I miss that

Tell him to hang in there, don't lose hope. I'm not on X, can't say it myself. Peaceful change is the only option. Have pride in your country. Don't let foreign "investors" steal it - a violent change would be an opportunity for them, so don't give it to them. Save in Bitcoin, so the regime only has one option : peaceful change.

For someone who has very little idea about the Middle East- this is probably the most I have learned about what actually goes on there. Saving this Guy!

A country that chants “Death To America” wants a nuke and you want Trump to do nothing? GTFO.

Great stuff man. The issue is that a lot of the Western people commenting and siding with Israel haven't traveled outside of the US/Israel/UK bucket. You have to visit other places to understand why there is a level of mistrust with the USG and Israel. They are no one's friends. The US has supplied Israel with weapons and bombs and given them a free hand to ethnically cleanse Gaza over decades with little to no uproar. Do you think Iran should have no sympathy for the people of Gaza who Iran considers "Muslim brothers"? Why is it ok for Jews around the world to defend Israel because ultimately they believe them to be their brothers but not for Iran or any other country? Why should Iran not build out ballistic missiles, when its clear that the world will watch, the US will do Israels bidding, and there will be zero repercussions on attacking a sovereign nation? Also, ffs, the level of cope from people saying "Iran chants death to America". You need to step out of your bubble and visit these countries if you can. First- Iran doesn't have the firepower or a desire to attack the US. Even IF they have a nuclear bomb, they're not fucking dumb. They realize that a nuclear war is a zero sum game. No one wins. Every nuclear nation on earth realizes that. But every nuclear nation on earth has the bomb for credible deterrence. In addition, chanting death to America is a local rallying cry and it's clear this happens in dictatorships. Why is a chant a threat to the US? Lastly, Iran has shown the world that there comes a point that you need to stand up to bullying tactics by the US and Israel. Both these countries have created so much mistrust in the Middle East, supported proxy governments, tried for regime change, that the people of that region are pushing back

No reach? They have been killing our soldiers for 50 years. They can nuke one of our bases in Qatar and kill 10,000. You are fucking retarded.

None of this is actually about religion. It's about property rights. If an Israeli leader wanted peace, all he would have to do is apologize for all of his predecessors' crimes and then actually allow all people of all ethnicities to buy & own property. He'd have to stop funding Hamas & allow Gaza to develop & simply institute efficient police & courts that do their jobs. That is all that is needed to take the wind out of all of all terror cells. People do not naturally want to fight & die. They resort to such behaviors when their loved ones are killed & their lives have been destroyed. That doesn't mean all people can be made peaceful. Obviously everyone should have gun rights & there should be strong support for self defense (this would solve most problems in most places). Of course the US would also probably need to shut down ~700 military bases. And all of the above would require the ousting of a multi-national psychopathic pedo cabal in which the members are all allied through mutually assured destruction. The problem is that govt creates an inverted morality where some people do better when others lose & this attracts the same sort of child fuckers all over the world.

America don't even have freedom anymore so why nuking other countries would bring freedom to them?

The Israeli soldiers pose with the toys of the children they have killed. Both sides have the same lack of respect for the other. Neither is civilized & neither sees the other as human. One side has to start acting human in order for things to change.

With all due respect, you think an apology and property rights in Palestine mean the Iranian regime suddenly changes their entire world view? Why do we in the west insist on projecting our morality and conditioning on the people of other culture? Listen to their words brother. It's a good idea to take them seriously IMO. Is there even a niggling doubt in your mind that rather than 'remove the wind from their sails' that it just emboldens them and taken as a sign of weakness?

How about this: Doing everything necessary to find a mutually acceptable solution at the negotiating table? Reconciliations are possible, even between arch-enemies. There are examples. The will to do so must be there. I‘m a Dreamer, I know. But I‘m not the only one.

Pineapple 🍍 is a perfect topping for pizza.

☝️ this. Pineapple on pizza is the perfect food. Italians rekt.

I think he means that there may be no such thing as nuclear weapons. I've heard this recently but haven't looked into it yet. That would be a mindf***

I think he means that there may be no such thing as nuclear weapons. I've heard this recently but haven't looked into it yet. That would be very interesting. Kind of a mindf***

I hear you. I like it. Both sides have to want to co-exist. I'm not sure I see that. I think my whole view here is we have done that to death now. Consistent cycles of cease fire, talks, agreements, then back to business as usual. Both sides as bad as each other. I'm not sure how to resolve that.

Oh damn. Yeah that’s a rabbit hole I have certainly never gone down. Never even heard of it, but might be fun to explore it. I find that one hard to accept though because the propaganda it would take to convince the Japanese that there was a bomb that destroyed entire cities that didn’t actually happen or with fake images of the aftermath would be a very complex undertaking with many many “leaks” in the narrative, imo. I could certainly believe that the magnitude and power of the ones that are supposedly “a thousand times bigger than Nagasaki!!!” Is overblown bullshit and we don’t actually have bombs big enough to wipe out the bottom third of the eastern United States. But that they don’t exist at all is a road I have never ventured down 🤔

I guess I was referring to the very beginnings of the US where there wasn’t even a central government yet with conquering the land from the indigenous people, then slavery, then meddling in numerous countries over the decades, toppling governments to suit their own idea of superiority etc. You know what I’m talking about. Nothing new and continuing under whoever is elected. And no, I don’t think any other government would do it very much differently - as history has shown. Just the US has perfected this playbook - sadly. I don’t have any illusions that anything will change other than a new global monetary system is ushering in fundamental change. And that’s what we’re working towards. I agree with everything you’re stating. Hope your (wider) family stays safe. 🕊️

This nincompoops WW2 japan argument/logic might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. My only thoughts are can someone really be this stupid or is this some sort of troll account

I agree with most of what you’re stating although that’s not what I meant to express with my comment about the DNA. I was referring to the very beginnings of the US when incomers (immigrants) started conquering the land from the indigenous people, then slavery, then meddling in numerous countries over the decades, toppling governments to suit their own idea of superiority etc. You know what I’m talking about. Nothing new and continuing under whoever is elected. It’s just that the US in my understanding of history hasn’t changed (from manufacturing & peaceful trading towards violence etc) and becoming rich was mainly due to exploitation of other nations and their resources. Hope your family stays safe. 🕊️

I don't think there's any question about the US bombing Japan or the devastating civilian toll 😢. My understanding of the claim is that those weren't nuclear bombs and that there's something questionable about the state of that particular technology. But I should probably stop here because I genuinely don't know anything about it! Just happened to have come across that same claim in the last week.

I would say that’s not very fair, especially if he didn’t know anything about Libya. However I do love your use of the oft forgotten but wonderful word, “nincompoop.” Otherwise @𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) is a generally great account to follow. Nobody has the exact same thoughts or level of familiarity on anything, so of course we draw different conclusions from the same situation/info. I know *some* about the Middle East situation but honestly these a vast, thousand year old human networks and religions and governments and liars and political manipulations and cultures and wars and personal vendettas… like seriously… who dafuq REALLY knows what’s going or what the consequences of any particular course will be. I don’t pretend to know, but I just know war and lies is what got us here, and attacking a country that wasn’t attacking anyone, (setting propaganda from liars I don’t trust making claims they didn’t verify aside) isn’t a way to solve anything.

Fair take. And far kinder than I

Dropping bombs is not negotiating. Big fail for Trump

Both sides are not as bad as each other. Israel is way worse, they're the ones with the terrorists, the ones doing ethnic cleansing, and bombing their neighbors.

Imagine writing that, and no recognising how utterly ridiculous it sounds to anybody with an ounce of intellectual honesty.

AIPAC is powerful but it's only one avenue of Israel's subversion of America

Undisputed fact; The zionist terror armies invaded, without precedent, the Sovereign State of Palestine Undisputed fact: The zionist terror armies stole innocent civilian lands at gun point Undisputed fact: The zionist terror armies raped, tortured and murdered mothers and their children Until you acknowledge the above facts, there is nothing to talk about. This is not up for discussion. If you don't like it then go sit in a corner and try crying harder.

Dude.... Did you even read the thread? I quite literally wrote they are opposing sides of the same coin lmao. Holy shit, you lot are so emotionally invested in how warm and fuzzy it makes you feel standing up for the underdog, you fail to acknowledge anything the Iranian regime stands for, and doesn't hide from you. I know I know I know.... What do we expect them to do, right? 😂

When the Iranians use my tax money to wall a million kids into a death-by-starvation-and-bombing camp, let me know.

I highly recommend that book I linked if you were interested, here's the authors bio. "Akio Nakatani is a Professor of Applied Mathematics and Statistics. His research interests include Stochastic Systems, Parameter Estimation, Stochastic Optimization, Monte Carlo Methods and Simulation, Neural Networks, Statistical Pattern Recognition, Statistical Image Analysis, Nonparametric Bayes and Bayesian Hierarchical Models, Time Series, Graphical Models, Nonparametric Bayes and Bayesian Hierarchical Models." I have become very skeptical of nukes at this point, but it's a lot to reconcile, the idea that superpowers would be colluding and lying on levels not before considered.

You laugh at the death of innocent people because you're a filthy zionist. Yes, normal human beings do care for their children unlike your filthy households. We're not rooting for the underdogs, we're standing against your filth.

There it is.... That's what I knew was under it all. You disgust me.

Go hang yourself, we don't need more of your zionistic filth

This is how delusional and twisted you are. Anyone that doesn't conform to your cult is a Zionist. I am neither Jewish, nor Zionist. I couldn't be any clearer, but just like the woke left, you have reduced everything down to simplistic 'good/evil' narratives because it makes your simpleton brain easier to comprehend.

Then go back up this thread and acknowledge the three facts which I stated. If you don't then you're 100% a filthy zionist.

Yes, heinous acts committed by the Israelis too!! It's in the thread you numbskull. JFC, you really are a muppet. Just like the woke.... "Thems good, thems evil.... Thems oppressor and evil, thems oppressed and does no harms" Sound about right?

Ok then, let's say these zionist terror armies did this to your family, how would you respond?

Oh, so tax money is the defining factor? Well done. You figured it all out.

You're retarded if you can't understand this premise

Exactly the same as if I were Israeli, and 'terrorist' did that to may family too. Here is the kicker - if they told me they would not stop unless me and my kind were dead, and my country erased from the map, I may be inclined to be a little fanatical too. Now what? The question of "what would you do?" only apply to one side? Of course it does... Because that's what the crowd says, and as much as you like to think of yourself as an individual with your own thoughts, your own echo chamber tells you repeatedly that is what you are supposed to think.

just gonna put this right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bwnp12/physicist_galen_winsor_eats_uranium_on_live/

Says the one that thinks they fit in now if they wave a flag 😂 They don't love you brother. I know you feel like nobody loves you here either, but I can assure you, they hate you for everything you represent, and no amount of flag waving, or "if only they knew I am on their side" will change that. The word 'fanatic' should be a clue....

You're so retarded you think I want to bomb Palestinian kids and starve them because they don't love me, when I don't even want to stop trying to do everything Digit wants while she hates me

Well, it was only one side that invaded and occupied the other for 80 years!! What did you exactly think would happen? Of course "what would you do" applies to only one side. Now you're not being fair on yourself. Illegally and violently attacking a sovereign country and occupying it for eighty years. All the while torturing and raping millions of their children. Children! Can you read? Children! And you're worried that the world is wishing these filthy zionists dead? Are you brainwashed? Do you have no morals? No sensitivity? You're downplaying all these atrocities? And you're defending these monsters? Like I said, you ARE a filthy zionist. Only zionists can downplay such heinous crimes.

Why is it you feel compelled to reply to random comments of mine, yet spend no time thinking about the reply you get from me? Are you like this in meat space too?

You don't require much thought to reply to, I've been combatting dumb internet bullshit for a long time

> "A bad government is survivable. No government is not." Is it a given that if the so-called government collapses a new group or individual will emerge claiming to be your new ruler?

So you think Israel should be erased then? If yes, how long does a country have to be established before it has staked its claim on the land? The US is only a few hundred years old. Maybe not that long, eh?

Maybe it's best not to bother then.

If you don't have responses to your bullshit being called out then indeed, you might as well not bother responding - but you also might as well not bother with bullshitting in the first place, perhaps

I'm not downplaying it you fool. That was implicit in the word 'heinous' for everyone except you, clearly.

Read the thread. Any question you could possibly come up with is answered in there, if you bother to read it. You bore me. Sincerely, get some help.

Huh, haven't seen that before. For some reason it reminds me of Robert Wilmer injecting himself with 'aids' blood. Perhaps the same type of scam, all along.

Didn't ask anything

No, it's a fact all these zionists have dual citizenships. Just go back to their original countries. And if they don't have dual citizenships, I'm certain most countries will welcome them with open arms. In fact, since it was Hitler and his armies that seem to be the zionists' biggest nightmare, why on earth didn't they invade Germany and raped, tortured and murdered their children?

lmaooo. That's your answer? Displace 10m Jews ( and no, most do not have dual citizenship - that's a woke-like lie. ) And I assume they will all just go willingly, and not fight for what they think is theirs, yes? This is my problem with childlike simplifications. It is one step thinking, zero nuance, zero context, and generally falls in favour of the weaker party - just like the woke do.

Good. Now extend that to include "didn't write anything" and we can pretend this conversation never happened.

I don't see Digit asking me to take your requests Point me to the part of the thread that answers my first question: What motivation did you think I might have while you were typing this?

And can the Palestinians fight for what they believe is theirs? Are they also allowed to defend themselves? Can they live freely without being occupied?

What part of "you bore me" was too difficult to understand?

Right, didn't think you could

Yes, they should be able to. Of course. JFC dude, did you even read anything I wrote here?

Yes, they should be able to. Of course. JFC dude, did you even read anything I wrote here? The issue isn't about whether they should be able to, my entire premise in this whole thread, which your world view has blinded you to, is history has happened, we cannot undo it, and now we have 2 parties who both claim the other should not be there. Waving the flag of one side, ignoring all crimes - including by some that aren't even there, and just use them as a pawn - and demonising the other side, is part of the problem. You have become a useful idiot for the fanatics. Well done.

warmongers sell death like it’s a subscription. we’re the ones paying the bill.

Thank you, and the filthy zionists will continue to rape and murder children to this day. Stopping this will stop the illegitimate zonist regime and all the zionists. You talked a lot of gibberish by the way.

Now, do you recognise Israeli's should also be able to live without fear of their women and children being killed, raped, and held hostage? Do you think civilians should be free from target? Do you think Israel - given the opportunity - would erase Israel from the map, and all its people? Nah, you wouldn't acknowledge that would you. It does fit your simpleton view of the world.

Israel is a suicide cult Adults can leave, any children who can be rescued should be too

See! This is why nobody likes Americans. 😆

Why does Israel refuse IAEA inspections?

Suicide cult? Are you insane? One side recruits suicidal martyrs, and sends their own kids to sweep minefields so the soldiers can walk through, they use their own people as human shields, and have stated the more casualties the better, and you call Israel a suicide cult? Bro....😂

Hawaiian Pizza was invented by a Canadian who had immigrated from Greece 👀

Stop the rape of the children and then we will talk. Just me saying this shows what kind of an animal you are . You fucking have zero sympathy to children. All you care about is your Satanic State (you rape children = you're a Satanist) You say you're not a filthy zionist is a complete lie, you little shit. You yourself need to be prosecuted and put to death for not caring for children. I mentioned what's happening to the children in Palestine, and each time you either downplay it or try to move on to a different point. It was my mistake engaging with a dog like you. Muted

Feel better now? I know. Realising your simpleton brain can't comprehend the complexity of the world, tends to manifest like this. Lashing out. When you calm down, maybe you realise both sides do this? pretending one is holy, and the other is not, is disingenuous at best.

The suicide cult are the insane people, not me

Those that martyr themselves, and their children for ideology then, and think that is the ultimate purpose? That cult?

I don't know if they really think about it that much, it's just insane to collect in a big suicidal group either way

Let me help you. They think about it a lot.

I don't believe you, and why would this help?

Oh boy, if I have to explain this to you, we will be here all night. I'm bored again. It's the entire premise of why "If Israel just did this" is nonsensical. You did well for a few mins. Congrats

Iran has proven that only those who are determined to fight to the end can gain the right to survive, and that compromise will only be seen as weakness and incompetence, and the final result will only be slaughter. This is true for a country and for an individual.

Libya had vast oil wealth in the early 2000's which translated to a higher GDP than most other African nations. Was that wealth spread out or highly concentrated? Did the people have widespread political freedom? Is it normal for countries to seek biological and chemical WMD's?

Can you point me to your source of CIA funding Libyan terrorist groups shortly after 2003? What are your thoughts on the Arab Spring uprisings role in the 2011 civil war and rebel groups receiving funding from outside influences such as Qatar and UAE?

Israel literally assassinated the man with whom they were negotiating. These are extremely malevolent people.

Get him to come to NOSTR.

Have you ever stopped to consider why they hate America? Are you familiar with what happened when Iran tried to nationalise its oil and prevent the UK and USA from taking all the profits? There are always reasons and in this case it’s the west being absolute dicks.

Stop critically thinking bro all you need to know is they chant “death to America”. There’s nothing more to it - OPs

Wut?? Are Israelis not Jewish all of a sudden? They want to topple the government of their neighbors and do regime change so they can install puppets friendly to them. Nothing is ever about them and their desire to expand their genocidal ethnostate at any cost. Always subverting lol

And who started the Fed 👃🏼

Think a little bit harder about who you are referring to when you say “they”. Religion is how they get us pawns to take sides. Seems to be working.

Oh I have, too much probably. They the zionist jews leading the Israeli government everyone that’s sympathetic to their objectives in the region. Yes, Jewish controlled media and politicians having been positioning whites and blacks against each other. Divide and conquer. Same tactic they use in their wars. I’m just noticing. More people should notice.

How ignorant of Iran to put their country right in the middle of all these US military bases

I have always been disheartened by war. I would ask my ex military grandpa a million questions and he would tell me that whatever story you’re seeing anywhere in the open is not the story. So since the anti zionist narrative is gaining ground I assume it’s just part of the smoke and mirrors. I am just disappointed like most people who believe that we should have evolved beyond war by now.

War is lucrative for griftef politicians. BTC is the only solution.

Sorry, I’ll stop peeking behind the curtain 👀

I appreciate you @Guy Swann! Thanks for forcing some critical thinking 🫂

Also the chaos in Libya spread to neighbouring nations. The weapons given to the r

"Boko Haram," a djihadist group, inherited most of the weapons given to the Libyan rebels and started destabilising countries in the Sahel region: Cameroon, Nigeria, Tchad, Mali etc. This is still happening until today...

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If you are saying that a bad leader makes it sensible to fund terrorists and overthrow a government to destroy a nation and send its people into destitution (and a seemingly permanent state of war), then I have somewhere around 200 countries for you to get started on. 😄

You’ve failed to even mention the religious component to all of this. religion poisons everything, this situation illustrates that perfectly

They should know better

The anti zionist sentiment is hardly mainstream or popular Let’s just leave it at agreeing the people killing kids with my tax dollars are not the good guys

Thank you for not answering a single question. 🤣

Or perhaps you conviently missed my second post so I'll ask the questions again, "Can you point me to your source of CIA funding Libyan terrorist groups shortly after 2003? What are your thoughts on the Arab Spring uprisings role in the 2011 civil war and rebel groups receiving funding from outside influences such as Qatar and UAE?

Should have build that border wall much sooner

The "Bankers" was a reference used in a copper stamped book around Jesus's time. I lost a link to the book years ago. One of my previous posts should give a touch of insight of their system and how they operate.

Emperor Kuzco

I read your entire post and the replies. 

You are exactly right in so many ways of viewing the symptoms and some of their tactics. 
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Can you imagine if he won.

Oh wow, I never realized you were a psychopath. 😂

Lol. Is this sovereign state of Palestine in the room with you?

Nice! Go team Zionists.

Look who’s talking. You probably put sock shoe then sock shoe instead of sock sock then shoe shoe.

No way. Only a crazy person would do that.

Go fuck yourself you filthy zionist

Have a zap. I'm assuming you could use it. 👊

Take it and shove it up your ass

Too late, sweetie. Already there.

You already shoved it up your ass? Good boy.

Here another 1k zaps. Give it to someone to fight the 'evil zionists', 😂

So you like big things up your ass? Such a typical filthy zionist. Now it's ime to move on to even bigger things. Have you tried big cucumbers yet? It excites you when I talk dirty to you don't you, you filthy zionist? Zap more and I can give you more ideas of what you can shove up your zionist ass. Soon you'll become the street walker you've dreamt of being your whole life. Never stop exploring your filthy zionist asshole.

wtf, is this actually a thing? 😂

Good thinking

Yeah, nobody wants American CIA funded rulers. Just look at Ukraine...

I have a bridge to sell you, cheap!

Israel would of killed him..

Yup

Ron Paul, the Mises Institute et al have done a lot to spread the ideas of Liberty around the world, precisely, accurately and consistently. The American government and its cronies on the other hand has contributed a great deal in making people around the world distrust, misunderstand and hate the idea of Liberty. It's the State that people ought to be hating. Not the ideas it falsely claims to support. The government is not its people. And the people are not their government. Freedom has very little to do with democracy and everything to do with natural rights, self-ownership, natural justice and the non-aggression principle. To think otherwise is brainwashed doublethink. Liberty is not an American idea. Neither is it Christian or Western. It can be understood and embraced by any reasoning individual. I can comfortably embrace my own religion and culture while being a libertarian. Because unlike socialism or nationalism, libertarianism is not an ideology that requires the creation of an ideal 'libertarian man'. It's just a legal theory about where violence is appropriate and not appropriate in social relations. It doesn't require the spread of a state's 'soft power' or 'hard power'. It doesn't require a power vacuum to be filled by an entity that contradicts its principles. It does not require bombing millions of innocent civilians. View quoted note →

I heard a “Proof Of Weapons” as the basis for collaterallization on a bitcoin podcast yesterday (Re: Abraham Accords)… Funny - Proof of work was what was sold to us when BTC said #Forkyou. Just sayin.