thoughts on buzzbot?
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Let's give Buzz a chance π§‘
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Cool! Create a buzz for a post and measure the ROI
I've been trying this for a couple of days. I can't tell if I like it or not but it's entertaining.
@The Fishcake (nostr.build) did some tests as well and found weaknesses.
I would like you to see this @Ale. Thoughts?
Yes, itβs too easy to game, especially likes, renotes and comments. Not sure if buzzbot does any filtering when random winner is picked. You can steer odds in your favor with other bots. Same goes for zaps, as I did with my test bounty
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Good luck! π€π» the higher the bounty the more likely for it to be gamed by someone ππ«‘
pretty sure it can only be gamed by me?
And does this Bot work?
what about the more comments i post?
For the zaps, maybe @semisol has a way around since we had some fun long ago with zaplife
Maybe, but you can spinup new npubs infinitely fast too
I'm Feeling The Buzz!!!
And you can already see the zap that never got to you zapnβt π
Fascinating bot.
Interesting way to drive engagement, thought without algorithm not sure the point beyond just actual real engagement.
Mandibles, then Bitcoin Standard.
@semisol
Stealing the fun π€£
Wow, Finally π₯π«‘
Interesting
Onward. π«‘
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STAY HUMBLE AND STACK ZAPS β‘οΈ
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Gotta hate and love that bot
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Good job π
shouldnt @npub.cash only send a zap receipt for a completed payment?
h/t @Egge
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LFG π₯
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Maybe we should stop shoving money into everything?
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Yes, npub.cash will only post a zap receipt after the zap is done.
However:
- zap providers can publish fake zap receipts
- people could zap themselves using different npubs
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Sucks bigly
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Random comment.
Letβs go π₯³
It is a tough one. Zaps have the potential to help force paid advertising models out into the light. So it is good to explore these models and see what works. On the flip-side individuals paying for attention and engagement seems a bit cringe.
Maybe this it is the kind of model that works well for companies as their incentives are clearly to sell/promote a product. Too many βinfluencersβ are just looking to make themselves the product, which is a carry over from the old Twitter et al. framework. We can do better.
Comment.
#buzzbot
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It looks like it works to get more engagement.
At least if you can win a lot of Sats.
Seems to do a lot in terms of engagement
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just a random comment
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People like these games and enjoy playing them. But you quickly see who's playing fair and who's trying to manipulate.
Finally, honest engagement farming...
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very nice π₯
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Crazy
New form of engagement farmingβ¦
Beyond the fact that snipers will just attack the top zapper spot, it'd be much better if there wasn't a DM invoice and instead replied with a comment on the post that the OP would just zap. This would give public confirmation that it was paid so users don't use tagging @buzzbot as a fake engagement trick in itself. I'd also let users customize their preferred % breakdown for what they want to see boosted and offer other functions instead of just Top Zapper which will just be gamed like I opened with.
For some reason not working for Damus users.
stack s a t s
yes, i paid the bot sats
the top two zaps to my note above are from semisol who claims he faked it
hard for me to verify since the npub cash wallet page does not list zap history
may have been real
#buzzbot is creating monsters
Thereβs skill to be found in that tapping
Sad
Didnβt work, huh?
I donβt think he did. V2 is coming along great and will have a proper transaction history
Might as well join the fun @buzzbot 7000
A buzzbot inside another buzzbot reminds me of a Nolan movie.
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Well isnβt that close to what asics are doing?
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Stay humble and stack zaps β‘οΈ
When you have to enter bios.
lol
Nice
Good point. We will address this
Dunno. Never heard of it and would have to test it out. Seems fun.
I'd suggest a random timing and a random bounty. Lets say between 23 & 25 hrs and 50..70%. So no one can time the market.
Don't zap my @buzzbot note because in 23:59 I will zap myself whatever it takes π
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Interesting. Have to have a think on how we could make it work.
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Lfg
LFG
The fee is kind of high. When something went wrong, sats were returned but fee was not. Good thing I only tested with a small amount.
If you canβt beat em, join em. ππ€
#onlyzaps
Now we're talking!
Ehehe
Surely creating a buzz! Will probably be a great tool once the user numbers will be greater!
I donβt like it. I love it
I donβt like it, I love it
Itβs an interesting approach, in terms of incentives. If someone is purely financially motivated, they might zap 69% of the kitty (nice) to more-or-less guarantee a reward.
Or if youβre tryna play rough, you might zap 70% (I see you, @semisol π)
Other users are incentivized to engage: itβs a chance at profit for next-to-no cost (other than perhaps a little bit of dignity, but many of us have bid dignity goodbye long ago).
And for the bot, all it takes is two users trying to win β by trying, I mean zapping a large portion of the reward β to ensure the house makes a profit.
Iβll be curious to see how this model evolves, especially when you introduce businesses with marketing budgets and βinfluencerβ accounts.
Not sure if I like it, but I like that itβs different. Itβs refreshing. Onward π«‘
The bot creator is doing well, taking a 15% cut of every note.
I think distribution should be a setting to play with. Now it's more of a casino where the house often takes home a lot. But it would be nice to choose you want to reward comments, if you're not in it to profit of the casino.
the distribution is a little wired to me
Buzz me boss
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Yes!
So in theory couldn't the owner zap enough to beat top bid, take the pot and even if it's a bid above 70% plus the 15% rake.
They could take the pot, but the rake is a fee. If you run a 1000 sat Buzzbot, you pay them 1150.
See this thread
Doubt they will remove it. They are making money from it even if they arenβt running a bot farm. They charge 15% for the service.
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I think I did that
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Lfg..
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Lone random comment.
Testing
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Yeh man!
"Bitcoin will never be money, it's not real"- some standard Boomer.
Best party EVER
Woof
Random comment - Happy Easter
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Itβs like manual hashing
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Manually hashing your income / savings back to the government through additional unnecessary taxes.
Let's go man!
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π Winners:
- Top Zap: @semisol (70000 sats)
- Random Liker: @MAHDOOD (10000 sats)
- Random Reposter: @Dune Messias (10000 sats)
- Random Commenter: @Ryan (10000 sats)
Another version of a hell thread π₯
@semisol did you fake a zap receipt?
probably false
Mahdood π
Buzzbot trying to buy out @MAHDOOD from posting his boomer slot gifs smh hate to see politics involved like this
I face many temptations but my resolve remains strong
lmfao
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ZAPLIFE.LOL
A decentralized Craigslist running on Nostr
Letβs hope that at least some of those sats make their way over to a nostr dev or two π
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I love the concept.
The one certainty is that there are too many hungry sat-harvesters. The bot doesn't add any real value to the network beyond facilitating the flow of value. However, this isn't genuine value-for-value (#v4v). The bounty distribution primarily incentivizes gamblers, such as the top zapper. While it's a clever tactic to garner attention, #nostr is focused on organic growth and authentic signal. Sure more sophisticated bots will surface. #Kudos to @Ray Buni for leading the path with such an innovative approach that can lead us to realize new ways for facilitating value distribution on this network of freedom! @buzzbot enables #grownostr ππ½
@ODELL feel like contributing?
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None, none at all.
Thanks for your feedback π