Concordo com ele, pode ser algo que esteja freiando o avanço do Nostr como mercado. "Tenho lido sobre o protocolo nostr e comparado-o com o DSP sobre o qual escrevi em 2021. Muitos dos detalhes parecem ter sido brilhantemente elaborados, mas uma coisa que me preocupa é a dependência de nós voluntários. Seria ótimo se houvesse um modelo de negócios para nodes e competição entre nodes à nível de protocolo. Do jeito que está, me pergunto se o nostr pode escalar".

Keychat is a chat app, built on Bitcoin ecash, Nostr protocol and Signal protocol. Keychat is inspired by the postal system — stamps, post offices, letters. Keychat uses Bitcoin ecash as stamps and Nostr relays as post offices. Keychat uses Signal protocol to ensure message encryption security and meta-data privacy.

I completely agree with this, happy to have you with us. Have any ideas on how we can achieve this?

running relays are pretty cheap, and with the outbox model each individual node doesn't have to be that beefy

What you're describing is very similar to NIP90 data vending machines:

NIP90 - NIP-90 - Data Vending Machine

Read more about the NIP90 on {{appUrl}} - NIP-90 - Data Vending Machine

"This NIP defines the interaction between customers and Service Providers for performing on-demand computation. Money in, data out."

@Ross Ulbricht immediately asks the most important question imo. Do we ultimately need "pay to post" incentives? Will this be solved by other emergent business models (as we're already starting to see from companies like @primal ). My intuition is that other business models will subsidize and keep the network sufficiently decentralized (ie enough relays storing notes). I also think that Nostr is more about the identity layer and ability to find peers or other communities via relay rendezvous points, at which point you can use whatever transport layer you want. But we'll see... Probably the biggest open question in my mind. Wdyt? View quoted note →

What are you working on/want to build?

Incentives could be implemented using zaps. I can't say exactly how but it's there. I can feel it.

> It would be nice if there was a business model for nodes and node competition at the protocol level. No, that's a recipe for creating a closed ecosystem that limits freedoms and stifles innovation similar to having a strong federal government that sets all the rules like requiring all devices to have a USB-C port. Unlike Nostr or other decentralized social media solutions, Spasm is the future of social media because it's the only fully agnostic open ecosystem that doesn't limit developers or users.

Keychat has introduced the sats stamp concept, which is quite similar to what you’re talking about.👇 Keychat is a chat app, built on Bitcoin ecash, Nostr protocol and Signal/MLS protocol. Keychat is inspired by the postal system — stamps, post offices, letters. Keychat uses Bitcoin ecash as stamps and Nostr relays as post offices. Keychat uses Signal/MLS protocol to ensure message encryption security and meta-data privacy.

Keychat

Keychat - Super App for Humans and Agents.

Sovereign IDs, Bitcoin Wallet, Secure Chat, Mini Apps — all in Keychat.

We hope that Nostr relays can evolve into post offices that sustain themselves by collecting ecash sats stamps.

Clients are doing this as Damus NWC.

You are 100 % right . We need to incentivize nodes some how. Zapping is a tool we have. All we need is the idea.

hypotheses

spatial computation