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lol he wants to add a multisig to Bitcoin to alter data...sounds like someone doesn't understand Bitcoin after all.
View quoted note βWhen asked for comment, Luke replied, βYouβre writing an article on completely unfounded lies?β
Assuming this is true, it muuuust mean that knots is completely dead now, right?
I've always said that I liked Bitcoin but it really needed more centralized points of failure.
After 4 months from this note, how is it going..?
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View quoted note βTo be honest I think Jack's more of a peanut butter guy.
Cool. π So anyway, I think the Lola screenshot is a different person than the other two screenshots. I think she got the top two and then reached out, which is the bottom screenshot. Hers isn't verified. The other two are verified.
@Bitcoin Mechanic could you do me a solid and comment on this? Appreciate you. Thanks.
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Look at the messages again. Most are not with Lola, but screenshots from her source, who is verified. Lola's message is at the bottom and is not verified.
Close, I would definitely try a Hodlbutter milkshake
@Oshi (ζ¨γ)π
From Mechanic
I understand, what I am saying is I can just "Verify" any safety number with the name "Luke Dashjr" but that verification doesn't mean anything unless they have their safety number correct as well. This is a hash that is not spoofable.
Well this is fucking horrific.
"Nuh uh"...
Fair point. That doesn't mean it's actually Luke.
Verified doesn't mean what you think it means on signal. I can "verify" a safety number from a contact with that name without actually verifying it is them.
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I shook his hand and had a nice conversation with him a week ago. I'd like to see his thoughts on this.
@Carol Souza seria legal mais vΓdeos sobre isso na Γrea Bitcoin, gostei dos que vi
Yes I understand that. I was pointing out that Lola's direct message to Luke was not verified, which contradicts your initial statement.
Oh I see, yes I worded that poorly. I mean to say: the leaker, the signal contact, and Luke Dashjr would have had to verify that the signal profile is genuine in person. Otherwise "verified" means nothing.
Yikesβ¦
Ad homin attacks are low. Core now psyop attacking Luke. How low are you guys? Make me sick.
Everyone who got duped into running Bitcoin Lukeβs Vision, now is the time to come clean.
I want to assume it's some kind of play against Luke.
Because otherwise it would be short against Lukecoin π€·ββοΈ
Cope harder. Your statist bootlicking is boring.
how and what #core and their muppet johnny-come-lately defenders define "coming clean":
X2 NGU
never go full retard
JackTheMimic
LOOK guys I have more leaked chats from LukeDashjr!
They are TOTALLY REAL, it even says VERFIED at the top!
nostr:nevent1qqstguh9pk9kvvucdh4wuvchflgwlqjkhsq6a6afp0r59urehqmjpkspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuur
Agreed.
If y'all don't knock it off i'll run Librerelay.
Luke claims this is fake?
Wow so the people who said Luke was a lunatic were correct.
I bet he'd call THIS fake too!
Im crying about it. LOL. Still running knots. Core are dead to me.
He is too pussy to do it.
Look at his profile. Itβs fake news and a psyop
The purpose of βrunning knotsβ is to signal disapproval of the upcoming mempool default policy change. Itβs also the biggest client flagging event since UASF during the block size war.
Itβs not about supporting or condoning Luke Dashjr. This is the core side showing desperation imo.
The only way we can solve this is for Luke to give me his phone and I'll read all of his private Signal chats. Live on zap.stream obviously.
Iβm inclined to say, βCrazy! Catch the game last night?β
but i donβt even know if there was a game last night.
View quoted note βSo like what happened with bitcoin cash, core is forking a shitcoin and knots are just staying true to Bitcoin n
Its strange how people trying to kill Bitcoin are complaining about this and trying to blame those who aren't actively trying to shut down the network.
Absolutely!
I appreciate the professional work being done by npub12apcw0ak27qxdnc3gz5ax83k3766hp9l326fqle055xsat24clqqcgn3wz & npub1mznweuxrjm423au6gjtlaxmhmjthvv69ru72t335ugyxtygkv3as8q6mak immensely
But this isn't their best effort imho
Specificity the gotcha-journalism style interaction with npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk at the end of the piece devalues it's credibility
It's all a bit legacy/fiat media cringe, really
Love your work npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk but this is an important topic & deserved better
Your work is valued & important ... keep going ... but just saying
wohoops that's Love your work npub1mznweuxrjm423au6gjtlaxmhmjthvv69ru72t335ugyxtygkv3as8q6mak but this is an important topic & deserved better ... lol .. I'll try to do better π€£
Bitcoin Dash. ALL IN.
Just keep it below v30
Can you prove the claims about this being "fake news" without saying just trust me bro?
Also its being made to look worse than it is. We have bigger fish to fry, (Centralization of mining, Bitcoin adoption, node expansion, etc) Luke and co are trying so hard to spin this like if it has as much relevance to the block size war. Its just something to make their mining pool and themselves get some PR points to basically enrich themselves since they mine towards their own pool. Also Datum isn't that different from Stratum V2, except the fact that Oceans backend is closed source. Which is completely against what they claim to be for. Its just food for thought.
Also show me where this is Bitcoin core being desperate. This is just journalism and someone writing an article that needs people to critically think and investigate before accepting it as truth. Which is why I tagged Luke, which I doubt he would reply to me since I'm a small fry on nostr.
This is all getting so retarded
Did you also shake Sinatras hand and break bread with the best of em?
You should hope not, considering knots is just a fork of core ... Lol
@ODELL's call that this cycle feels extremely similar to 2017 looks better by the day
yes. we are bffs now.
Journalism?
Luke already replied to this story. Do you bother checking peoples profiles or do you sit there and wait for them to reply to your message?
And REGARDLESS of Luke, the current flagging protest for knots is not about Luke.
Itβs about users rejecting Core v30 update to mempool policy.
How does your brain work that you think this means knots users will start supporting a hard fork altcoin?
He keeps saying "fake news" and "liar", but never directly responds to this question:
This article is about as believable as Ghislaine Maxwell's version of the Epstein files.
So currently Luke hasn't posted or replied to any of this on nostr. Which is currently the only platform is use, if he has posted a comment about this article on X. Can you share it to me please to make sure I can get all the facts. Also I don't wait I do tag them to see their input on things, get it straight from them.
Also a lot of people will follow blindly to someone as vocal as Luke and Mechanic. Theyve made this sound like its the end times for Bitcoin and only by running their Fork of Bitcoin core. (The node software not the actual chain) then it will be saved. If they don't get their way they might try to work towards a fork to the chain.
Also its really easy to game the number of nodes out there. You just need a VPS, some credit and you can pop in an extra 5% more Knots users.
Me personally I don't like the way core is managing the implementation since I'm a heavy power user that has a mining farm going and it actively removes certain things I need. But that doesn't mean I'll move to Knots which is only maintained by Luke and two other folks. With his history of bad OPSEC I say running a older version of core is safer than knots.
Nobody gives a shit about convincing you of anything. Get over it
It is journalism regardless of whether you suck on Luke's tip or not. If it ends up being wrong then its bad journalism, but if it stays unrefuted and then its good journalism.
Stop worshipping Luke and Knots and use critical thinking and have a thought of your own. Acting childish makes you and others who support knots look like retards. Otherwise you guys look more retarded than Shinobi trying to glaze core.
Ok man, listen- you arenβt stupid enough to update to software that hard forks Bitcoin right? Neither am I, letβs not assume the intelligence of others or βthe massesβ
PS. Those people donβt run nodes
Prepare your anus
Lmao says the MF glazing Knots like its the gospel here to save Bitcoin from cores sins.
That's why you educate others on how to run their own nodes and teach them the deep mechanics of them. If we treat people like their stupid then they'll believe they can't do it. You gotta give people the tools for them to learn and to get self efficacy and confidence that they can run things without some dude claiming only techno wizards can run nodes.
I appreciate your respectful reply. Here's some sats for it. β‘
I'm not gay man. You do you though, go back to your circle jerk and suck each other off.
βIβm a journalistβ ππ
Defamation suit incoming
The lack of awareness is brutal. You sound like a total leftist bitch (no offense) in that text exchange.
Right on brother π€
"Grok please generate a text message conversation where Luke is considering a bitcoin hard fork."
"Grok please generate a text message conversation where Luke is considering a bitcoin hard fork."
Indeed. The messages might turn out to be real & verified, but that is not the point, my comment still stands ...
Looking forward to the βfake newsβ claims.
We never hwve to upgrade. That is also an option.
Amazing someone so irresponsible has got >20% of Noderunner support so quickly. What does that say about Core Devs?
My god itβs full of retard
This seems like the ideal job for luke. Official bitcoin Csam reviewer.
Bitcoin, the 24/7 soap opera, never stops giving.
Quote of the year: βNot sure I'll get a chance before November, too busy trying to save Bitcoinβ lmao
Thanks to
@The Rage
View quoted note βπ
fuck luke and he can fork the hell off
So...according to comments, this article is useless because:
- it's AI content generated
- Rage takes shitcoins
- It's ok because Luke wants to save bitcoin from Coreβ’οΈ
Man, knots fans are taking mental gymnastics up to an olimpic skill
View quoted note βIn the event of a fork.
It will be time to dump Bitcoin Luke Vision (BLKV) or Lukecoin (LKC) for BTC π
View quoted note βIt doesn't say much about core devs, it says a lot about technically illiterate bitcoiners who don't understand the debate and who think they are personally "doing something" to save Bitcoin, which is not at risk in the first place.
You guys suck.
Intended for retards that will fall for everything:
View quoted note βThis article is a new low of "journalism"
None of this would ever work. The market doesn't want this. Bitcoin doesn't need this, and this is just the Bitcoin's version of fake culture/political wars from real life (left vs right), that all they do is distract from the things that really matter.
And what matters to you is going to be different than matters to another person, etc. But there's certainly things that matter more or less...
Big retard energy.
You don't even need AI, I did it by using Signal's own verification against it. Like this:
Great song. 1more kid thatβll never fall in love. Never get to be cool!
digital footprints are evidence treasure house in court of law
Tell me how to trace the digital footprint of a spoofed verification, a Tor-routed signal chat, and E2EE connection.
It shows Core Devs have lost the community and are no longer the trustes bitcoin implementation. Talk about not being able to read the room. Fuck me.
they don't need the retards of the community. Feel free to fork to your permissioned zkproof luke chaijn and have fun being retards over there.
You probably shouldnβt write stories about shit you donβt even understand. Especially if you do t know enough about said topic to even ask intelligent questions
This sort of horseshit is what happens when someone with an agenda but without the requisite background knowledge writes about technical topics. It happened constantly during Covid. The Rage is trash and you should save your brain from rotting and not support them
View quoted note βThe verification that everyone is outsourcing is very similar to the hoax that ZK starks is trying to pull off
Where the fuck did you find this?
The amount of cope coming from Core shows they do actually. Your poor understanding and attitude to Noderunners and Bitcoiners is also telling. Were you dropped as a baby? Or you just super dumb.
The fact that you use the word "noderunners" shows how much of an idiotic retard you are. You do realize running a node does literally nothing? being a noderunner does fuck all for the network.
Nodes that do not mine and produce blocks for the blockchain are entirely useless to the network, their only use is for you as bitcoin user to verify your transactions for yourself, and to do so without requesting blocks with your transactions from someone else's node, letting them know which addresses are yours which is a privacy concern.
That's it.
There is zero benefit for bitcoin if you are core "noderunner" or knots "noderunner". neither one benefits bitcoin's security or the confirmation of new transactions. The only reason to do run a non-mining node is to verify your own transactions in the blockchain without having to rely on someone else. The only additional benefit, is you're doing so more privately by querying your own node instead of chainalysis' node.
You can directly infer how stupid someone is by if they use the noderunner, and they are even more stupid if they think they are somehow "protecting" or "saving" bitcoin by being one.
So you're saying there is a benefit?
read what I wrote fuckwit. there is no benefit for the bitcoin network. the only benefit is for a user to verify their own transactions.
lol- wut? you dont know?
not for bitcoin. not for censoring transactions. sorry retard.
So you can relay your own transactions. Who knew?
You should understand that while you may not be relaying these transactions, running Knots does litterally nothing to stop them from being mined and they will ultimatly end up on your node anyway:
https://njump.me/nevent1qqsghnx4jk3vmpfsaw4xxhk9fxmcnh33nqqq04ty4c2wk6uw4sg52ecpzfmhxue69uhkummnw3eryvfwvdhk6tczyzmf9l8rhwnmml5sl0vl5f9jz8j5ena2yqagg8zxa088t4wau4pp7qcyqqqqqqgmed9ey
npub1k6f0...tryn
This 2679 byte op_return containing a png file was confirmed on chain. I broadcast it using Core version 29.1 to the regular Bitcoin relay network (no out of band service needed). Core 30 makes no difference in the ability of a "spammer" to confirm transactions with large op_returns.
Here is the TXID: 0d5f273d09c1a4665634fd25d5a17b879d8843de5edc40b8b7d8671500dd16b6
It took a little while to be mined, I must have gained a new peer that would relay it to a miner. I broadcast it block height 916259 and it was confirmed at 619343.
I paid less than 1 Sat/vB. Knots users didn't have this transaction in their mempool but now they store it on their node. Filters won't keep these transactions off your node. Filters do not work.
You can view it for yourself with this command (Thank you
@npub1mxrs...0htc):
bitcoin-cli getrawtransaction 0d5f273d09c1a4665634fd25d5a17b879d8843de5edc40b8b7d8671500dd16b6 true | jq -r '.vout[0].scriptPubKey.asm' | cut -d ' ' -f2 | xxd -r -ps | base64 -d > filters.png
Here are my node settings that allowed me to send this transaction and get it relayed (and mined):
minrelaytxfee=0.00000100
mempoolminfee=0.00000100
incrementalrelayfee=0.00000100
datacarriersize=100000
If you are running Knots because you believe it will prevent "spam", you are being fooled by Mechanic. The only way to keep this type of transaction off your node it to fork #Bitcoin consensus rules.
Hard fork != chainsplit.
But don't expect this sort of 'journalist' to understand that.
Hard fork != chainsplit.
Only for ththe midcurver readers of the Rage that don't know a chainsplit from a hard fork.
The #Deciders are at it againβ Againβ¦ CuΓ¬ Bono <β
Great "gotcha". Core's argument so bad they have to wheel out the XMR scammers to defend them. GFY
Yes, i understand this. Miners also need to understand the risks when going against node policies.
Unfollowed
your node policies don't matter, which is the point. Miners decide what the chain is.
they are too stupid to understand this
Filters stop spam in the mempool if they are not mined. What dont you unserstand about that? Miners then also filter using datacarrier. Catch up FFS.
I donβt understand the argument that because someone is doing something bad elsewhere we need to change the code.
no, they don't stupid. The undesirable transactions filtered by knots "noderunner" retards just show up in other non-knots nodes' mempools and get mined by non-ocean miners, or directly by miners via out of band channels making you all retarded morons that accomplish exactly nothing.
Drink thia you fucking tool
You fucking retard. Go fuck yourself with your dumbness.
go use lukechain and fuck off, fucktard.
Go play with your crypto loser
cry more about it
