At this point I’ve come to the unfortunate conclusion that every brave man who gave his life fighting for America died for nothing.

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For me, this depends on how you define "America." I define it as a set of ideals without which life isnt worth living.
I hear what you’re saying. One might argue with any civilization there is only ascension and decline, never an extended period of prolonged peace and prosperity. Like the fleeting blooming of a tree.
Yes, there is a very cyclical nature to things. I'm here to play my part, my generation is here to fight against the sickness infecting our country and create a new centuries long uptrend.
"At this point I’ve come to the unfortunate conclusion that every brave man who gave his life fighting for America died for nothing." But they didn't die for nothing. They died for furthering the interests of the Controllers and the Central Bankers at the expense of their descendants. Many of them also killed for the same reasons. Military men are some of the most brainwashed and weak-minded individuals. The people who thank them for their service to the Central Bankers are a close second. The slaves of America can battle it out with the slaves of Germany or the slaves or Russia or China, until their descendants have lost all their God-given rights. A crazy alternative would be for the slaves to realize that their interests converge, to band together and fight for their freedoms. The real fight starts with a mass tax revolt and rejection of fiat slavery. View quoted note →
I’d argue this has been the case for decades. You’re just finally seeing it. The Jews have fucked this country beyond measure
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MrTea 1 month ago
Take a step back and pour yourself a bourbon. Then talk to people that have served and seen people die for their country. They all have a reason, a purpose they believe in. It may not be what you think
America was built on a peculiar institution and has carried that original sin like a covenant it refuses to break. The tragedy isn’t that brave men died for nothing. It's that their sacrifice was demanded by the same pride that keeps the nation blind to repentance.
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markonyte 1 month ago
David Irving: "If The Soldiers Who Stormed The Beaches In Normandy In June 1944 Could See England As It Is Today, They Wouldn't Have Gone 40 Yards Up That Beach"
They died for the American experiment. They died so the experiment could be run and tested. We now have our results. Their great sacrifice lives in those of us who remember what they stood for and use that inspiration to build a better world irrespective of America itself.
Another perspective. Those men signed up to fight for America, but died fighting for their brothers beside them. It was done with good intentions, regardless of the reasons corrupt men used to send them to their deaths.
No, that's a red herring. Firstly its no "the Jews" its the Zionists that are the problem, which are mostly atheists and might not even technically be descended from Jews. Secondly they don't really control anything, its just that the same organizations that do control everything control both America, Britain, the EU and Israel.
I'm not here to fight nature, I'm here to fight the men who lied to, stole from, and propagandized the people of my country.
They didn't die for a country - they died for everything America represents.
I agree with this statement. I do not agree with your previous statement. I believe all people are created equal. Being born in America is a lucky draw in the lottery of life. We need to use that position of privilege to help our brothers who were not given the same luxury.
The only reasonable fight is that for your own freedom and privacy including your family. In the digital age this has never been easier when using the right tools and being willing to opt out from society. Monero over Bitcoin I2p over TOR Grapheme over iOS Privacy over convenience Linux over Windows Encryption over AI hype
you now have your reults fiat ruled world genocide transgenderism epstein culture LGBT society crack aids homelessness woke Thank you america but no thank you! The world would have been much better without you!
they were simple cucks that risked their lives for LGBT, aids, crack, woke culture and homelessness and fiat rule. Hopefully they learned something
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Your brother wasn't born gay he chose gay or at best was pychoped by the tv gay. Either way don't be gay
These brave men were followed by a bunch of soyboys who didn't fight at all and made themselves comfortable in the prepared nest.
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Thats just how I feel about homosexuality.
1. I'm more American than you since I actually consider the constitution vital to the idea of America 2. Digit is American and she's good 3. America sucks but I'm kinda positive about it, especially when Digit seems to exist
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Kendy 1 month ago
Serious question for you: If you call someone a dick, and they’re in “pain” as a result, why are you innocent?
Judgement cuts both ways man. Discernment is cutting off those very limited beings that only add noise. Muting dicks purifies your feed & your life. Judgement limits you. We need to be shedding limitation I changed the oil, oil filter & diesel filter on my truck yesterday. I'm not a car guy but I'm learning. I didn't have a brother until I found Bitcoin, now I have many. 🫂
I love every person I mute for suffering through this incarnation to show me a manner of being that I choose not to emulate. They are guideposts, albeit repellant guideposts rather than attractive ones. If your left hand causes you to sin, cut it off. Likewise, if having bigoted, hateful, and rhetorically lazy content in my feed causes me to stir, mute the content creator. It's a long story but there's no way anyone could replace him as my car guy. There's too much history. I had plans to do something cool with him. I was going to get him to help me build a Herbie the Love Bug and teach me as we did it. When it was done, I was going to give it to him. I can do some car stuff but I'm no mechanic and I'm no enthusiast. He was both. Hopefully, in the future, the bigots are all laying on their asses because they just had their perspectives rugpulled by a certain book currently being written.
I’m under the impression that any quote “collapsing empire / nation / dynasty … whatever the people of that empire tend to say that about their ancestors that stood for what they quote believe in. However unlike most of the past nation experiments, none have stood for the individual freedom as much as the one we have now of the United States, and yes through our own country’s history there has been many a dark and very oppressive part of it that has evolved over time in to in many ways still the most free country in the world. And now more than ever freedom and individual sovereignty is possible to a much higher degree than ever before, and will likely become even more so in ways we may not even fathom.
Yeah, I'm going to call that "reacting", not "judging". He stuck his finger in my wound when he could have done nothing. That's aggression. I'm not going to be aggressed upon. If Kyle Moore ever crosses my path, he will regret his choices very much. He will suffer one way or another.
My job is to help him realize that it is in his best interests to never treat me like that again. My job is to enforce my boundaries. He chose to knowingly violate them from the cowardly position of hiding behind a screen. He never would have said that to my face because if he did, there would only be 2 questions left to ask. 1. Knives or fists? 2. What hospital do you want to go to?
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Yup never been on the internet before and unaware of the terms of engagement. We are not irl bud you have no power projection
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Brian 1 month ago
He died for decades of freedom. Did you believe it was possible to die fighting for something that's great forever and ever?
I'm not comparing houses to houses though. I'm not even comparing countries to countries. I'm comparing your country to a sum of all individuals It's also not suicide to put someone elses home above your own. If your house is in need of repair, me repairing it does nothing to my house. If however, I want to expand m y house in a way that damages your house, not only does it damage your house, but it damages the neighborhood as a hold, and more importantly, it infringes on the rights of the individual that owns your house. Anytime you put a collective over an individual it is morely repressible and damaging to everyone.
Such nastyness. I have learned from you both and I thank you both for the discussion. You clearly have some depth of thought behind your positions.
Doubtful that the death of some 20 yr old private in an IED in bumfuck karbala taught anything except that your government will treat you like meat, for lies, oil and money in their pockets. Rinse and repeat.. vietnam, afghan, ukraine..
Max and Paul Warburg in control of the German central bank, and founder of the fed reserve, while the countries were at war w eachother.. let the plebs fight while they take money hand over fist
That’s why they need to bring back duels. Let these world “leaders” settle their disputes by putting their lives on the line and leave the rest of us out of their bullshit!!
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Mauk200199 1 month ago
Agreed, it’s a bitter pill when you realise every war is a bankers war.
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Sam 1 month ago
A lot of cynics here, but your sentiment is not lost on all of us. It think we can acknowledge both that the experiment has gone awry and that, especially early on in the experiment, people really did sacrifice for freedom.
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BTC-Satan 1 month ago
Because secession was not an option and slavery is evil. On the Texas question .. yes.
Wars are fought for profits. I agree with your statement, reluctantly, because both grandparents and brother served in the marines and in wars. All of them told me not join because it was not worth it. My closest friend was an airborne ranger, 5 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, said it was all for protecting assets and has never been the same.
I agree with some of this. But the final conclusion not so much. What country is better than the USA? Where else would you rather live? As long as the answer is nowhere else, then the experiment has succeeded even if it hasn’t lived up to the highest potential. There is an argument that the expansion to the West extended the experiment. There is an argument that technology created new variables that the founding fathers did not foresee and thus did not safeguard against. I do not think either of these arguments mean the experiment failed. The experiment seems to have worked well. Sounds like we need a new experiment. Perhaps it will happen on Mars.
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Sam 1 month ago
I hear you, I do think that success is not the best way to frame it. Is the country we are living in faithful to what the vision of the US founding fathers and those who have died in wars? I think we could agree that answer is certainly not. Just because a lot of good has come from it doesn’t justify broken means to achieve that end. I don’t think the goal was to be the least bad global option or the lesser of evils. I think the point is less to bash or be ungrateful for the US and more to follow in the footsteps of those who formulated the experiment and would not stand for the same old systems that deny individuals liberty and justice. I think statements like @HODL and the videos you see posted of these war veterans saying this outcome was not worth the sacrifice are less complaining and more echoing the founders call to reform (or maybe even prune) the broken parts of the system to recapture faithfulness the the experiment in means and ends.
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BTC-Satan 1 month ago
Texas can be kept under wraps without firing a shot. Gov. Abbot guzzles Trump's ejaculate. The Union won, deal with it.
he isnt talking about that you stupid asshole. he is talking about the fights that mattered... and they were fought for thousands of years, leading the the LIBERTIES he is actually referring to when he says America... he isnt talking about the likes of you, the intellectual homosexual who cant read between the fucking lines. image
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Vincent 1 month ago
People in power are wicked and evil, I haven't felt like I belonged in this world my entire life, and always wondered why people are okay with a lot of things, don't say anything or don't even want to talk about it. And if you do bring up important topics or ideas you are outcast, ridiculed and ostracized for it.
Possible. Idk which historical period @HODL was thinking about when he created his note (independence war, civil war, ww1. ww2 etc.)
The vet video was from the UK. If success is not the best framing what is? Progress? That too is a plus for America. America is going backwards. Zoom out. What it has created is wonderfully. If the 50s or the 90s or some decade you love is the peak and we are rolling backwards, then that’s that. I don’t think it is. I think great things are ahead. If we didn’t have bitcoin id be doubtful but we do.