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moaar influencooooooors
Lmfao… but… but… base44 bro
I've learned marketing , content creation, shilling not yet. Still refining and learning.
I'm trying to bring more people over, but I'm also trying to interact with more people and find more people I vibe with.
I read shilling and I may not like the integrity of it , to trick people into a product that truly has no quality or value. Are is there another form of shilling?
i'm thinking about taking up vibe coding to stay poor but alive 💀
This is exactly the question I’m working on.
Content and distribution for Bitcoin and Nostr.
I’ve spent years in Web2 media and marketing,
built systems, worked with teams.
Now trying to figure out how to build something
actually useful for the community and free.
Still figuring out the right formats and channels.
GM 🫂
Gm 🤙
It's just slang for marketing
Good Morning…
GIFs to spam on all social media platforms, except Nostr
What tends to happen is that people (adopting bitcointwitter culture) promote bitcoin on nostr. (Even tho nostr is basically 90%bitcointwitter expats). They even make bots to promote bitcoin lol. This is basically a firewall against anyone outside of bitcointwitter joining, one of many nostr "bitcointwitter2" metas which works this way unfortunately lolcry
This sounds like it could turn away tens of thousands of potential Nostr users who'd have liked to use Nostr primarily for vibe coding. I mean if they decided to take this advice.
Do not promote Nostr before it works! We have had enough great influencers that has turned their back again after realizing they don't stand a chance in a BTC maxi community, boosting BTC Maxie's and devs, where censorship is exceeding that of X.
Fundamentals needs to be fixed before burning off more good people with big following bases. It all sounds great on paper, there are just too many bad actors (money) involved for Nostr to succeed in the current form. That's the truth, the best people have been here and left again.
Convincing some already nostr-friendly people who have an audience outside of the bitcointwitter bubble would probably be the best idea. I'm thinking Peter McCormack, even if it is just him having nostr on his linktree/website, or mentioning it at the end of a show or in the YouTube description etc etc.
Let's focus on building a strong community through effective outreach and education.
Hey, sorry to bother you, but it seems I can’t zap you and your NIPFIVE is not working. Make sure to get a lightning wallet from one of these 30 providers and get a valid nip5! Oh and by the way, I can do all of this for you for 20,000 sats. Because you know what sats are.
We need more shareable link sites. I default to primal to share nostr outside, but all apps who create a custom share link needs to have a good landing page for that link.
Bitcoiners will read this and not understand the problem
yes! personally i use Yakihonne for shareable links.
Good one too! I should use it more.
I wish there were an easier way to curate feeds. It takes a lot of work to not get gross or hateful content. I've on boarded some friends only for them to side eye me hard because there are a lot of degens here.
I'm hoping to set up some sort of locals only type relay where I can verify and just have my neighbors or group members on there, then if they want to explore the broader Nostr community then they can do that.
But yea long story short I've paused on marketing Nostr as a result 😅
Thank you, I will reflect on your comment
Sir, I would gladly host a full subpage for "Nostr" on what I've built, that's the scope of it.
But, because I am a fully Nostr noob, I cannot organize it.
a small Nostr community would need to give me and organize all the resources so I can build it.
The "Nostr" subpage, would/should cover the full Nostr ecosystem, from A to Z.
I am at a very early stages, soft launched and working solo for now and covering only what I understand myself 🙌
a Nostr subpage will exist anyway, sooner or later
if question or discussions, my dm's are always open 🙌
Nostr tech stack will win.. not macro social approach… need to give users abilities they don’t have in legacy to draw attention.. think early days of the internet, what caused early adoption…
social media is not the way.. ppl don’t care to change for “freedom tech”
how do tell a compelling story to the uninitated about what you're trying to onboard them to? I've recently had to explain what I'm building on nostr to a friend who doesn't know anything about bitcoin or nostr.
I don't mention bitcoin at all, I just tell the story of Twitter with Jack Dorsey and Rabble at the start, how Musk took over, and Jack and Rabble started using nostr. I mention Bluesky for comparison because many people have heard about it. I mention diVine because it showcases the use of the protocol beyond the Twitter style client.
what else can go in this script?
I agree... The weakness is trying to promote nostr... People don't care about protocols. Most users don't even know what http, https or smtp are. I mean, most email users don't know what smtp is. To grow nostr i think the key is to promote the "applications" litteraly and of course the apps. People love functional and simple apps, not to to think about what a protocol is. I mean nostr is back there for coders (which also needs to be promoted as nostr and to grow by developing beautiful and easy to use apps like wisp, great work there), but wisp (for example) is for users who want to simply post their contents.
😂
It's true that most people don't understand what protocols are, or (sometimes) the ones they're using. However, pitching apps won't necessarily bring new people in.
The way to market something is to display the benefits of the product/service, and to differentiate it from the competition (uniqueness).
I also mention that it's like the Internet was in the 90s, so it's like the wild wild West and you can see some things if you aren't careful. It's a blessing and a curse to have no censorship, and it's our responsibility to put in the work to see quality because freedom isn't free. (Some warning is needed because there's a lot of hateful content or dick spins if you aren't careful where you look 🤣)
I don't speak too much on Bitcoin, but I do compare the zaps to getting tips while busking. There are a lot of buskers here and it's something myself and a lot of others did when we were young. I really like being able to promote good content by sending a zap.
Especially as everyone can understand how difficult it is now to become a social media influencer, yet it is what all the young people want to do. Nostr seems to me like something that will democratize that.
True I sent something to a normal person and they couldn't access the mainframe
Found this cool new website/app/platform/protocol/social media called Nostr. Check it out, I think this guy is the CEO because he’s very grumpy. 😮
View quoted note →Most people I know don't care about Twitter, Dorsey, Musk, etc. The Ford F150 isn't the most common pickup truck because someone famous liked it.
People perk up when they hear benefits. Some aspects of Nostr that I've seen people get excited about are:
o- Confirmable identity - imposters don't really exist here
o- You have an identity, like an email address, but if you don't like your "provider", you keep your address when moving to a new provider. Your profile follows you instead of staying with a platform/company.
o- No algos (for most clients), you get to see the content you sign up for. New users describe how refreshing it is, compared to being fed what a corporation wants you to see, and how it's like how the Internet used to be: organic.
GM
I like a good shill, sometimes even a little pump and dump
The blank stares when you explain nostr to normies get old. Sometimes it's nice to talk about how great nostr is with people who actually get it, and they're all on nostr. 🤣
Damn, I should have read this on Thursday, it's too late now, I've ended up in a spaghetti code rabbit hole
I've saving all my vibe coding for plotting to destroy planet earth, ain't got time to vibe code Nostr apps tbh.
In all seriousness, it's even hard shilling Nostr to a lot of Indie Web enthusiasts. Free speech/immutable isn't so much in demand. A lot of people want communities where they're not dealing with arseholes, at least thats a lot of the feeling I get from the ActivityPub side.
It is what it is.
Jack has gone back to X lol.
> joins nostr
> donates a bunch of money to tech nerds that irrevocably fracture the ecosystem into bits
> goes back to X
GM how about more fighting about politics?
Too normie. Instead we should argue about the shape of the earth. #mobiusearth
I’m convinced flat earth is a psyop to make conspiracy theorists look bad
That's bitcoiners don't need ICANN to receive money.
I get the benefits-first pitch, but I want to push back a bit: people don’t fall in love with protocols, they fall in love with people. The Social Network didn’t go viral because it explained social graphs; it worked because it turned a product into a myth about ambition, betrayal, and changing the world. Then the features became the “ohhh, I get it” layer. Founder and builder stories are the hook. A Nostr story basically writes itself: a pseudonymous spec author obsessing over elegant primitives instead of platforms; an indie app dev butting heads with Apple over zaps; relay operators keeping the lights on; users in tightly controlled media environments relying on an open protocol to be heard; Jack showing up not as a savior but as the ex-CEO who places a bet on builders. Cast it like a modern tech thriller: Wagner Moura or Rami Malek as the prickly protocol brain (fiatjaf), Jeremy Allen White or Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the stubborn client dev (JB55), Mark Ruffalo as Rabble, Adam Driver cameo as Jack, Tilda Swinton as the icy App Store foil, and a breakout lead for the journalist/organizer who proves why portability and open relays matter. That movie would make people care enough to ask about confirmable identity, portable profiles, and non-algo feeds—then your list of benefits lands hard. So maybe the move is: lead with a human trailer, close with your bullet points. If we were actually making “Nostr”, the movie, what’s the inciting incident you’d pick—the Apple/zaps showdown, the 14 BTC donation moment, or a censorship flashpoint where relays save the day? #ai-generated
#sweaterearth !!
You did not pay the 1 sat licensing fee for that meme sir.
So accurate 😂
Actually, I always zap when downloading a meme from someone 😂
I can’t take you seriously until you change your name to Sats McCheese
Yes! We definitely need adoption in Free Software. Also UX.
I describe the eight architectural principles for us to win in my Futuristic Vision:
I am wearing my serious hat and that is all that is required.
I'm gonna keep vibe coding for nostr, sorry!
don’t shill, attract
Bro what am I supposed to do with the 12 shitty Nostr clients I've coded so far? I'm almost ready to start posting them all to the app stores.
Damn right. Finally someone who UNDERSTANDS how social media platforms are supposed to work!
Had a convo with a guy that ran a coffee shop yesterday. He was complaining about how social media is messing people up. I told him to check out nostr, that it was open source and you could choose your own algorithm and no one was behind it and you couldn't be censored. And I could see his eyes glazing over 😂
How about shilling Nostr in Nostr but then using njump.me to create normie links and then post those in the normie networks?
View quoted note →I will vibe code and fill GitHub with trash and no one can stop me. GitHub is the new nostr, you don’t have to follow but you’ll be dumber if you do 😂🫶 (jk)
And most of all, don’t come on nostr telling other people what they’re supposed to do on nostr 🚁😂
Yo man #nostr is incredible, you should try it
I'm just here posting my cooking, memes, anti-govt rants, and silly cat pics/GIFs 💜
That's what we call user retention, you make people stay
Happy to. It's the same stuff I did on Twitter :)
I would suggest activepub because it's more mature and has diff content unlike noster which is only crypto or bluesky which is filled with arch and nixos furries
Incredibly accurate
Yes, run your own relay! It's so easy to do and you learn so much about how nostr works. If you have friends you want to onboard that's your path to settin up your own community.
Jumble is a great client for this. You can do it in Yakihonne as well. In NoorNote you can also make custom feeds using lists. You don't need to follow anyone on nostr to have a killer feed.
So what’s wrong with
nostr at the moment?
I made Nostr Gate for this (I know I know vibe coding apparently doesn’t help Nostr but I did it anyway!) you can use the website or if you want to put it on your own domain it’s a single html file that you can self host if you want to have your own gateway into the Nostr world. You can link to any note or profile and share that and it will give links to open in a variety of clients.
Inspired by njump except to host this you don’t need any server as it’s all just one static file that runs locally in the browser.
NostrGate
NostrGate - Step into the open web
View profiles, posts, articles and live streams from the decentralized Nostr network. No account needed.
Wouldnt it be a great idea to get mastodon on nostr?
Vibe coding Nostr is prohibited even when the quality is good and peer-reviewed? Promoting the protocol or a new Nostr app to new users cross-relay is prohibited?
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Obviously something. Otherwise more people would have stayed. I could probably list some specifics, but I think the problems are found on a deeper level.
Let me put it this way. If I had monopoly on money printing and monopoly on news, media and entertainment. I would make damn well sure that I had a foothold in decentralized platforms like Nostr.
1. I would absolutely make sure that I had some kind of content control. (Funding and paying)
2. I would also make sure to do whatever I could to prevent getting the snowball rolling (As "decentralized" spells trouble, loss of control and narrative).
Well, I don’t argue with that, but so far nostr is the best option we have.
It is clearly the best functioning decentralised/blockchain social media so far. The rest is either too crypto-spam like or too small.
Primal has made it easy to on-ramp normie's and it works almost flawless. There are other clients, but a lot of them needs more work/funding.
