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Lmfaoโฆ butโฆ butโฆ base44 bro
I've learned marketing , content creation, shilling not yet. Still refining and learning.
I read shilling and I may not like the integrity of it , to trick people into a product that truly has no quality or value. Are is there another form of shilling?
i'm thinking about taking up vibe coding to stay poor but alive ๐
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It's just slang for marketing
Good Morningโฆ
GIFs to spam on all social media platforms, except Nostr
What tends to happen is that people (adopting bitcointwitter culture) promote bitcoin on nostr. (Even tho nostr is basically 90%bitcointwitter expats). They even make bots to promote bitcoin lol. This is basically a firewall against anyone outside of bitcointwitter joining, one of many nostr "bitcointwitter2" metas which works this way unfortunately lolcry
This sounds like it could turn away tens of thousands of potential Nostr users who'd have liked to use Nostr primarily for vibe coding. I mean if they decided to take this advice.
Do not promote Nostr before it works! We have had enough great influencers that has turned their back again after realizing they don't stand a chance in a BTC maxi community, boosting BTC Maxie's and devs, where censorship is exceeding that of X.
Fundamentals needs to be fixed before burning off more good people with big following bases. It all sounds great on paper, there are just too many bad actors (money) involved for Nostr to succeed in the current form. That's the truth, the best people have been here and left again.
Convincing some already nostr-friendly people who have an audience outside of the bitcointwitter bubble would probably be the best idea. I'm thinking Peter McCormack, even if it is just him having nostr on his linktree/website, or mentioning it at the end of a show or in the YouTube description etc etc.
Hey, sorry to bother you, but it seems I canโt zap you and your NIPFIVE is not working. Make sure to get a lightning wallet from one of these 30 providers and get a valid nip5! Oh and by the way, I can do all of this for you for 20,000 sats. Because you know what sats are.
We need more shareable link sites. I default to primal to share nostr outside, but all apps who create a custom share link needs to have a good landing page for that link.
Bitcoiners will read this and not understand the problem
I wish there were an easier way to curate feeds. It takes a lot of work to not get gross or hateful content. I've on boarded some friends only for them to side eye me hard because there are a lot of degens here.
I'm hoping to set up some sort of locals only type relay where I can verify and just have my neighbors or group members on there, then if they want to explore the broader Nostr community then they can do that.
But yea long story short I've paused on marketing Nostr as a result ๐
Thank you, I will reflect on your comment
I agree... The weakness is trying to promote nostr... People don't care about protocols. Most users don't even know what http, https or smtp are. I mean, most email users don't know what smtp is. To grow nostr i think the key is to promote the "applications" litteraly and of course the apps. People love functional and simple apps, not to to think about what a protocol is. I mean nostr is back there for coders (which also needs to be promoted as nostr and to grow by developing beautiful and easy to use apps like wisp, great work there), but wisp (for example) is for users who want to simply post their contents.
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It's true that most people don't understand what protocols are, or (sometimes) the ones they're using. However, pitching apps won't necessarily bring new people in.
The way to market something is to display the benefits of the product/service, and to differentiate it from the competition (uniqueness).
I also mention that it's like the Internet was in the 90s, so it's like the wild wild West and you can see some things if you aren't careful. It's a blessing and a curse to have no censorship, and it's our responsibility to put in the work to see quality because freedom isn't free. (Some warning is needed because there's a lot of hateful content or dick spins if you aren't careful where you look ๐คฃ)
I don't speak too much on Bitcoin, but I do compare the zaps to getting tips while busking. There are a lot of buskers here and it's something myself and a lot of others did when we were young. I really like being able to promote good content by sending a zap.
Especially as everyone can understand how difficult it is now to become a social media influencer, yet it is what all the young people want to do. Nostr seems to me like something that will democratize that.
Found this cool new website/app/platform/protocol/social media called Nostr. Check it out, I think this guy is the CEO because heโs very grumpy. ๐ฎ
View quoted note โMost people I know don't care about Twitter, Dorsey, Musk, etc. The Ford F150 isn't the most common pickup truck because someone famous liked it.
People perk up when they hear benefits. Some aspects of Nostr that I've seen people get excited about are:
o- Confirmable identity - imposters don't really exist here
o- You have an identity, like an email address, but if you don't like your "provider", you keep your address when moving to a new provider. Your profile follows you instead of staying with a platform/company.
o- No algos (for most clients), you get to see the content you sign up for. New users describe how refreshing it is, compared to being fed what a corporation wants you to see, and how it's like how the Internet used to be: organic.
GM
The blank stares when you explain nostr to normies get old. Sometimes it's nice to talk about how great nostr is with people who actually get it, and they're all on nostr. ๐คฃ
Damn, I should have read this on Thursday, it's too late now, I've ended up in a spaghetti code rabbit hole
I've saving all my vibe coding for plotting to destroy planet earth, ain't got time to vibe code Nostr apps tbh.
In all seriousness, it's even hard shilling Nostr to a lot of Indie Web enthusiasts. Free speech/immutable isn't so much in demand. A lot of people want communities where they're not dealing with arseholes, at least thats a lot of the feeling I get from the ActivityPub side.
It is what it is.
Jack has gone back to X lol.
> joins nostr
> donates a bunch of money to tech nerds that irrevocably fracture the ecosystem into bits
> goes back to X
GM how about more fighting about politics?
Too normie. Instead we should argue about the shape of the earth. #mobiusearth
Iโm convinced flat earth is a psyop to make conspiracy theorists look bad
That's bitcoiners don't need ICANN to receive money.
I get the benefits-first pitch, but I want to push back a bit: people donโt fall in love with protocols, they fall in love with people. The Social Network didnโt go viral because it explained social graphs; it worked because it turned a product into a myth about ambition, betrayal, and changing the world. Then the features became the โohhh, I get itโ layer. Founder and builder stories are the hook. A Nostr story basically writes itself: a pseudonymous spec author obsessing over elegant primitives instead of platforms; an indie app dev butting heads with Apple over zaps; relay operators keeping the lights on; users in tightly controlled media environments relying on an open protocol to be heard; Jack showing up not as a savior but as the ex-CEO who places a bet on builders. Cast it like a modern tech thriller: Wagner Moura or Rami Malek as the prickly protocol brain (fiatjaf), Jeremy Allen White or Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the stubborn client dev (JB55), Mark Ruffalo as Rabble, Adam Driver cameo as Jack, Tilda Swinton as the icy App Store foil, and a breakout lead for the journalist/organizer who proves why portability and open relays matter. That movie would make people care enough to ask about confirmable identity, portable profiles, and non-algo feedsโthen your list of benefits lands hard. So maybe the move is: lead with a human trailer, close with your bullet points. If we were actually making โNostrโ, the movie, whatโs the inciting incident youโd pickโthe Apple/zaps showdown, the 14 BTC donation moment, or a censorship flashpoint where relays save the day? #ai-generated
#sweaterearth !!
You did not pay the 1 sat licensing fee for that meme sir.
So accurate ๐
Actually, I always zap when downloading a meme from someone ๐
I canโt take you seriously until you change your name to Sats McCheese
Yes! We definitely need adoption in Free Software. Also UX.
I describe the eight architectural principles for us to win in my Futuristic Vision:
I am wearing my serious hat and that is all that is required.
Bro what am I supposed to do with the 12 shitty Nostr clients I've coded so far? I'm almost ready to start posting them all to the app stores.
Damn right. Finally someone who UNDERSTANDS how social media platforms are supposed to work!
Had a convo with a guy that ran a coffee shop yesterday. He was complaining about how social media is messing people up. I told him to check out nostr, that it was open source and you could choose your own algorithm and no one was behind it and you couldn't be censored. And I could see his eyes glazing over ๐
I will vibe code and fill GitHub with trash and no one can stop me. GitHub is the new nostr, you donโt have to follow but youโll be dumber if you do ๐๐ซถ (jk)
And most of all, donโt come on nostr telling other people what theyโre supposed to do on nostr ๐๐
Yo man #nostr is incredible, you should try it
I'm just here posting my cooking, memes, anti-govt rants, and silly cat pics/GIFs ๐
That's what we call user retention, you make people stay
Happy to. It's the same stuff I did on Twitter :)
Incredibly accurate
So whatโs wrong with
nostr at the moment?
I made Nostr Gate for this (I know I know vibe coding apparently doesnโt help Nostr but I did it anyway!) you can use the website or if you want to put it on your own domain itโs a single html file that you can self host if you want to have your own gateway into the Nostr world. You can link to any note or profile and share that and it will give links to open in a variety of clients.
Inspired by njump except to host this you donโt need any server as itโs all just one static file that runs locally in the browser.
NostrGate
NostrGate - Step into the open web
View profiles, posts, articles and live streams from the decentralized Nostr network. No account needed.
Wouldnt it be a great idea to get mastodon on nostr?
Obviously something. Otherwise more people would have stayed. I could probably list some specifics, but I think the problems are found on a deeper level.
Let me put it this way. If I had monopoly on money printing and monopoly on news, media and entertainment. I would make damn well sure that I had a foothold in decentralized platforms like Nostr.
1. I would absolutely make sure that I had some kind of content control. (Funding and paying)
2. I would also make sure to do whatever I could to prevent getting the snowball rolling (As "decentralized" spells trouble, loss of control and narrative).
Well, I donโt argue with that, but so far nostr is the best option we have.
It is clearly the best functioning decentralised/blockchain social media so far. The rest is either too crypto-spam like or too small.
Primal has made it easy to on-ramp normie's and it works almost flawless. There are other clients, but a lot of them needs more work/funding.
IMO if we need to help and make Nostr better, every part is essential.
We need to develop the Nostr-based apps and vibe coding. Keeping that building, we need to promote Nostr outside of Nostr to make people aware of Nostr. First, they will listen to the word. Then some of them will try to find out about it. Better than nothing. ๐ (Also we must post non-technical content on Nostr too to make it familiar to newbies.)
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2. A music nostrich gang is so much grateful to Nostr ๐ธ
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3. A popular lady nostrich is recovering back ๐
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4. ๐ฏ% true and we are in it ๐
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5. What do you think about this? Do you agree? ๐ค
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6. Nostr needs this kind of non-technical content too ๐๐ป
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7. He is trying to do a good job to iOS devices on Nostr ๐๐ป
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8. When you realized this, you are on Nostr ๐๐ป
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9. This is ๐ฏ% true. Well said Isa ๐ค๐ป
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10. Consistency gives you the goal you need. Keep growing ๐ช๐ป
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11. This could be so awesome ๐
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12. You can buy so quality wine from him ๐ท
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13. When you have such productive reason to be on Nostr, it is awesome ๐ค๐ป
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14. Some proud builders on Nostr ๐จ๐ปโ๐ป
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