Now the bank's app knows what other apps you have and demands that you delete them 😂.
But it's the system we deserve; we've allowed it.
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The more they push, the fastest Bitcoin wins
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I don't have that hope; humanity is too stupid.
Maybe the problem is having a banking app...
Most humans dont study, they work on incentives
When their 700€ CBDC gets blocked or frozen they will be push to other solutions
On graphene as well?
This is on your phone? Insane.
@Zapstore 👆🏻
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@GrapheneOS Are we protected if "public apps" are sandboxed?
Are you sure is authentic?
Please sir may I have another spyware on my slave tether? 
fuck that. 
fuck that. 
Unbanked has a nice ring to it.
Oi mat'! Yau got' a laissns' for that' app on yauh phon'?
I wonder how many votes it'll take to get us out of this mess!
No issue on my device with regards HSBC UK accounts. I have F-Droid installed most of the apps on this device, including Bitwarden, and received no alert on opening the app.
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I wouldn't lose a single second thinking whether to change fucking bank. This is outrageous at the very least.
I hope you deleted your bank app? 😅
The image is not mine.
Time to pull your money out of hsbc
What a shame. Time for a move?
This is fucking nonsense. I had to talk to chase to unblock my account which was blocked as I sent money to my wife on Zelle. They asked if I was expecting anything in return. I said THANKYOU would’ve been nice. 😂
It’s…
A fucking password manger?
This is both retarded and insane from multiple perspectives. Seriously is this real?
beyond insane.
Time to start having one phone for your official business and another for everything else...
Protected against what?
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we need to keep fighting this ... like this is in no way shape or form okay !!!
It's not because it's Bitwarden, it's because an app has been installed from a source other than the Play Store, and thus hasn't been audited by Google and installed with the verification of Play Protect. HSBC doesn't want apps that aren't Play Protect-certified installed on the device. Android is merely showing the user a list of all such apps, so that they know what to uninstall if they wish to comply with HSBC's mandate. The HSBC app doesn't know what the offending apps are, merely that at least one offending apps is installed. Install Bitwarden directly from the Play Store rather than another source, and the HSBC app won't complain.
Yes, it's still utterly stupid, especially when you consider the fact that the same banks are willing to let customers access and manage their accounts in any web browser, which is much less secure. No, the UK banks won't budge on this, they've been doing it for over 10 years in various forms, it's a continuous cat-and-mouse game.
The extra (nominal) security guarantee afforded by Play Protect is not a requirement for EU PSD2 SCA authenticator app compliance, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone in HSBC's liability/cybersecurity department advised them to implement this for some misguided reason. That said, I'm running Android 14 on a non-rooted device with several apps installed from sources other than the Play Store (including Bitwarden from F-Droid), and all of my UK banking apps (of which I have 12, as I have accounts with almost every bank that operates in the UK, though HSBC is notably not one of them) function just fine. Suffice it to say that if First Direct (an online-only subsidiary of HSBC UK that is routinely ranked as the top bank nationally for customer service) implements this and refuses to revert, I'm closing my accounts with them.
In a way I kinda welcome this. I don't like being told, "You have to do that through our app." This gives me the perfect excuse.
Wow. What the identified app about, how does it threaten them?
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Crazy.... @Cyph3rp9nk . We are being shutdown , censored and controlled more and more as days go by.
The small print on banks T&Cs state that your money is owned by them when you deposit it. My hope for the new year is that the masses wake up and unplug from the matrix 🤞
Get a dual sim or one Sim + eSim phone.
HSBC Bank had a commercial whith the slogan "Your DNA will be your fingerprint" !
Why are u supprting those dark occult agenda vampires ?
I would never !
It's called:
I N T E G R I T Y
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That is how newbies talk 🫣🤷♂️
You guys need to learn how to use compartmentalised profiles if you want to install literal shitcoin apps on your mobiles.
Christ, isn't Bitwarden a password manager? I know they hate privacy but keeping your passwords secret is bad now too? 😂
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I hope it's a fake!
What do the Sims have to do with this?
The F-Droid thing flagged it.. for the user’s own “security”
I mean, can they scan apps intalled in other profiles?
"We see you've downloaded a password manager. Given our policy to only allow 5 alphanumeric character passwords that we store unsalted on an AS400, this is in breach of our digital systems usage policy."
The banking app should get removed from google play for abusing an API. If this screenshot is real that is.
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Peak clown world.
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"Apps within the same profile can communicate with mutual consent and it's no different for sandboxed Google Play."
#GrapheneOS #FuckApps #FuckBanks #FuckEverybody
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HSBC: Hey! Study BitCoin.
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welcome, learn fast, at least faster than that 😂😂😂
Its a password manager. A damn good one, too.
The solution most will choose is compliance
Depends on how hard they get hit, eventually the will switch
In GrapheneOS I think one can restrict apps from being able to see other apps, with the hardened exploit protection ’native code debugging’
Please correct when I am wrong @Final
Maby the actual best thing is to report this intrusion to the Bank. I am sure there are employees, which are actually intrested in happy costumers 😉
I just gave me an other new year goal today, to go to some local stores I really like and offer them to support them in setting up Bitcoin payments.
I will probably use 
Seems a good option for easy implementation, while having the option to use easy bank payouts for those, which are not yet easy with storing in Bitcoin.
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As I mentioned in an other comment I think in graphene apps can not scan other apps, when ’native code debugging’ is disabled for an app in advanced exploit protection.
So you actually do have no apps of any bank at all? I mean it is great for everyone, who has this level of ’only open source apps’.
Congrats to you.
Depends probably on their community they are surrounded. I think for most learning about Bitcoin and totally investing is a slow process.
But I prefer slow and stady, than frantic and being hit with bad first experiences before understanding anything.
I have no banking apps at all. Even when I had bank accounts I didn't use their apps.
Same. Slow and steady is the way.
How unprofessional: They misspelled "you need to find a new bank"...
The banks are going crazy; perhaps one day they'll go so far as to ask us to delete the balance in our bank accounts.
Android still allows apps to detect what other apps are installed? That's as much an OS problem as an app problem, assuming you didn't have to consent to some kind of device management profile first.
It's not unreasonable that an app developer would flag a sideloaded version of a password manager. It likely points to problems far more often than it points to people enacting extra-strong security controls or doing legitimate local builds. But it's not reasonable if the OS enables this capability by default.