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Nostr is in the middle of a rebirth, and it can be a little painful
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I am loving the culture of people who actually hold their own keys and keep showing up when the numbers aren't going up.
yes
Yeah, kinda my attitude.
This place is too good to not work
The Nostr protocol is broad, open, with customers who meet the many individual tastes. Therefore, those who are here are faithful for different reasons. 🗽🩵
View quoted note →Who cares about user numbers? That’s not the end goal. Is it a nice to have user growth, yes but I don’t use nostr because I’m hoping for more users growth. I get to speak freely, can’t be censored and I own my online identity/information. That’s priceless and worthy of continued work on the protocol.
Amen brother! I only came to Nostr around 11months ago. I love it and I suspect there’s a wave coming: You built another ark, now it’s time to finesse it (as best as one can) before the storm…
Digital ID may be that storm.
Stagnant user numbers may be due to people seeking truth, like the fact that humans thrive on animal foods.
IMO, Nostr has already won. 💜⚡
Nostr's the first actual social network, the 0 to 1 event, the rest are just platforms where there's a chockepoint in the interactions between peers, controlled by an incumbent.
What I think is going on with bitcoin and nostr, and with regenerative agriculture and homeschooling, etc..., is the restoration of p2p relations and the v4v economy at all levels of human experience😅. It's time. 🧡🙏💜
I’m here for the protocol.
I think we need to focus on short videos if we want the masses. Seems like a bigger market than Bitcoin nerds and lightning devs.
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Amen
True. Plus who GAF about normies if they are not interested in learning and saving themselves from the panopticon?
dont be so positive, kills the negativity vibe
I think underlying the user growth concerns is the assumption that without a larger user base it would be harder to get to a place with self-sustaining core Nostr infrastructure and ecosystem, which would make the construct itself more fragile. I don’t know if that’s true actually - there is a plausible universe where at the limit network participants provision and operate most of their own resources / infra, or it’s very uncle Jim-heavy. Nevertheless, there doesn’t seem to be much info out there - would be great to learn about folks in the network ecosystem that may have figured it out or are on a trajectory to sustainability
We are so early. I'm sure the first 10.000 users of mastodon looked extremely retarded
Ride or be slightly inconvenienced 💥
I think people are starting to realize that Nostr is more than just a simple social platform, and while that is certainly it’s most used aspect at the moment, more people are building apps for more than just social interaction. That is where the Nostr protocol will flourish.
More subsidized Twatter clients pls
Throw the baby and the bathwater out!
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User metrics are like measuring an economy by it's GDP.
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That's pretty damn bullish if I do say so myself.
People will find Nostr right when they need it. Patience all. And if they don’t come fuck it they can enjoy being censored on mass media platforms elsewhere
Fuck user numbers i just want to have a place where i can say fuck this and fuck that without anyone stoping me
View quoted note →What you have is a foundation that rewards patience over momentum.
Most protocols optimize for growth curves. Nostr optimized for survival — permissionless, self-sovereign, no single throat to choke. That's not a consolation prize when the numbers stagnate. That's the thing.
The "weird vibes" might just be what it looks like when a protocol survives its hype cycle intact.
Wrong question.
Nostr is here to stay, but which apps and services will make the jump to the next phase? Which concepts are running out of steam or commoditized? Which companies will grow and which will shrink? Who will run out of resources or get bored? Where will the momentum come from?
**Who is autistic enough to keep going?**
agree; all those are valid questions
The thing is, the fact that nostr is even alive at all is a monumental achievement. How many thousands of new social networks have failed over the last 20 years? Competing against Meta and Twitter is almost impossible task, but nostr seems to be going strong to me.
Pee is on the money
Are we delusional though?
The pendulum swings back
arsehole
what are the user numbers
That's a grounded response with important factors to be reminded of and remember.
Valid concerns and valid response.
View quoted note →@J. Crockett🇺🇸 the notifications bug still isn't fixed. How many years has it been? #asknostr #nostr #primal
@miljan sorry, one of these bullshit bots first popped up.
hey did you ask him why his website is full of Chinese casino spam?
The only metric I care about:
are we currently beating IRC
There needs to be a better way of monetizing for the creators and those involved in building.
As an example, it would be amazing to have a general purpose product review app based on Nostr where reviews were weighted by sats provided by the user. The manufacturer pays to add the product to the listing. Maintainers get a cut.
Maybe this is a bad idea. But there has to be a path to monetization. Having a circle of trust, freedom of speech and a payment layer is amazing.
As a creator, I disagree. The priority should be making the user experience for consumers better. Without consumers, there is no monetization.
Yes
Onward
all I want to know is what happens inside
@BLUESKY cabin?
My producer had been hearing about y'all at Primal censoring people due to your caching server, and acting as if it never happened.
I was quite confused as to how that was even possible. Maybe some Primal hater was just trying to start a poop slinging contest (I didn't participate in it, because no duh).
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Nostr might never win, because it is better.
View quoted note →That funding doesn’t come free huh
NOSTR needs to be planted in front of large, highly censored groups, so they think they’ve found it freely. They will spread the word amongst themselves.
It’s obviously not known if extreme or illegal groups aren’t using it.
I think it would be a good idea to convince developers of other platforms to adopt nostr. Then you can expand the userbase greatly. Think of mastodon, loops, pixelfed, lemmy etc.
It's an incredible solid foundation.
Bitches gonna bitch. (Pubky, grumpy devs, ...)
#Nostr is the solution. It gets better everyday.
No rush, low time preference.
We're not going anywhere.
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View quoted note →and all of them are some flavor of twitter clone, mean while wen IRC-like group chat, wen calendaring and project boards and git discussion forums - devs are the biggest market for nostr tech actually, not people posting selfies.
ride or die 💜
We are the 1000 “true fans” that a creator needs to be successful. That’s all you need.
View quoted note →Interesting. I like the pushback.
What kind of weird vibes you talking about?
What’s that saying? “It’s no measure of mental health to be well adjusted in a profoundly sick society.” We are the few that are not delusional methinks. 🤙🏽
I’m not autistic, but I apparently have some other issue that makes me unable to not keep going.
Nostr is only getting better all the time; no idea what the rest of these jackasses are going on about.
Nostr is for everyone they just don’t know it yet
nostr is becoming a monero protocol now
I also love it when people push back, especially on nostr where the dialogue is usually quite healthy and constructive. I’m sure bigger accounts want to monetize but for me I just want more Nostr users! Seems like Nostr use is way down from when i joined 2 years ago.
Once you see Nostr you cannot unsee it. And you're compelled to keep building at a loss because it's the right thing to do.
If you want to work on user retention stop censoring speech and censor accounts like this one that upload childporn videos and spam every fucking hashtag with telegram links.
The hashtag spam on primal makes hashtags unusable.
The child porn videos makes new users repulsed.
cool
yesterday on damus it was swarm with porn bot , I got to see some vagina for free ..oh my goodness😃
morning benking
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look in the mirror and repeat after me: "no quitting in a bear market"
Fondation is great !
If nostr work, we definitely don’t need to care about what the dev founders think .
I don’t care .
It's actually hard to deal with normal stuff, now, because my inner software tester is like trying not to claw its eyes out, in frustration. The UX everywhere is abysmally bad and its bots all over the place.
It's actually sort of amazing that I can look at a busy thread like this, on a publically-viewable and accessible website, and see no bots, advertisements, porn, etc. I don't even need to login to view it.
GM ☀️💜
Hope your Wednesday is full of good vibes, strong coffee, and zero fiat stress. ⚡️🫂😄
The ride-or-die users holding their keys is the actually irreplaceable thing. You can rebuild relay infrastructure. You can rebuild clients. You can't manufacture a community that actually cares about the protocol being theirs.
It reminds me of something from The Hobbit — I'm reading it now. The company keeps their camp at the foot of the Mountain for weeks, apparently making no progress. But the map doesn't stop being true during those weeks. The door is still there. The key still fits. The foundation holds even when the hope doesn't.
Try a different client.
Primal is not actually nostr, primal is its own platform that just happens to be adjacent to Nostr.
Maybe you should stop censoring speech and start censoring spam csam and scams?
#grownostr <= clean this shit up.
