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SoapMiner 1 month ago
The Bitcoin Conference has had nothing but politicians, govt agents, bankers, and suits for the most part. WTF happened to the Bitcoin ethos?

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Absolutely! There's something special about the energy in those smaller conferences. It's like a hidden gem where connections feel more genuine. ✨ What’s been your favorite vibe moment?
I guess we'll just need to host our own, True Bitcoin conference! Oooh, or we can make a circular economy bitcoin conference!!! Where merchants can come sell their stuff for bitcoin directly 🤯🥳🤗
this happens to every project, everywhere, all the time. you can't go mainstream without it happening and I'm tired of Bitcoiners being shocked about it. if you give a shit about the Bitcoin ethos, just use Monero.
Is today corporate day or whatever? Last time I think they had a day, the first day, that was explicitly some such thing. I googled but didn't find answer
Yeah, but that's usually well AFTER the hot chicks show up. Still waiting on that part... All jokes aside, regardless of the scene getting whack, I'm hopeful the protocol will continue to work as sound money 🫂
It was a thing, just saying. I forget exact name, but day 1 was specifically to segregate all the corpo type speakers. So if that's the case, maybe the impression is confounding the two. It's pretty "sell out" anyway, has been for a while, but just sayin
appreciate that. but it's not correct. Monero isn't going to be mass adopted. and Bitcoin will only be mass adopted if the on/off ramps are totally kyced and surveiled. which is why the phenomenon you are observing vis a vis the conference is happening. so i'd guess that we disagree that freedom will EVER be something that is "mass adopted" and more that a niche interest of principled people.
The masses often become principled people... but only after being rugged more openly than ever before. And then only for about ten minutes, before they decide freedom is inconvenient and its easier to believe the next wave of elite assurances.
"freedom" is am ongoing process. not a condition that is achieved. there are certainly people that are confined in the dark who are more "free" than some who walk in the light.
I don't think our elites can hold off on the next fiat rugging for that long...
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SoapMiner 1 month ago
From what I've seen, they're good people. Cost us $50 to ship to Australia/NZ. They're filling a void, and doing the right thing
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SoapMiner 1 month ago
Have yet to go to El Salvador. On the bucket list
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Chiefwhite 1 month ago
Yes in Calgary or maybe Banff (or both?) I haven't made it down for one, I am a few hours away. Great idea and I believe they have always had a great turnout!
Firstly, this is Nostr, please don't be rude, that's for X. Secondly, I was talking about a physical market/conference, Silk Road was digital. And my internet is super slow and doesn't load the names of npubs, so if Ross was tagged, I would have known what it was talking about.
It puzzled me when bitcoiners or crypto bros were cheering on regulation and politicians bring forth bills…I because Bitcoin doesn’t care. It’s a system to escape all that crap. I get it adoption drives price but cheering on the fact that the people bitcoin will put out of a job are adopting it is dumb
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roll_the_dice 1 month ago
The ethos is still here. The Bitcoin Conference is not Bitcoin.
The Bitcoin conference definitely represents Bitcoin imo. Anyone who uses Bitcoin in any way represents Bitcoin. I don't think there's anything like good or bad representation for Bitcoin because no one's narrative about it trumps anyone else's. It's just that feds and bankers think they can take all the Bitcoin because it's the strongest money and give the rest of the world paper instruments instead. Why I think they want to take over the conference is to put their weight all over Bitcoin to make the general population think of them as the portals into Bitcoin. But it's so easy to custody and use Bitcoin peer-to-peer that I don't think it'll ever work out in the long run that they can be that gatekeeper as well as they are for gold. Every time they wreck people who hold paper Bitcoin, the smart ones will shift to self custody.
"Bitcoin ethos will always be Bitcoin ethos" no, it wont. the social context these things exist in are always changing and are NEVER static. how much of your bitcoin was bought through a KYC on-ramp?
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Matteo 1 month ago
Totally, I agree the social aspect will always be changing but the protocol is not. BTC is still doing what it’s supposed to. Decentralized and permission less. KYC does suck but that’s a fiat problem any time you touch those rails the state wants to know about it. As people use BTC and the layers built on it you will interact with fiat less and less.
Why are you (not you specifically - I mean pretty much the whole "community") giving those grifters airtime? Weren't Shitcoin Magazine & Co. supposed to fall off into obscurity after enabling NFT's and shitcoinery in 2022? Or the Ordinals fiasco in 2023? Or after the $NAKA launch? There are so many great projects in this space that are much more worthy of our time and attention.
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SoapMiner 1 month ago
I pay attention so that I know where the culture is moving. While Bitcoin is the purest, hardest money,... it's also driven a certain culture in it's beginning. One of freedom. And just like money, culture changes people's minds as well.
I agree. But my point is more like... culture is what we make of it. We can delete BTC Inc. from the story by not giving it our attention and focusing it on other projects. Why not talk/support/share stuff that @The Rage puts out? Or @Bitcoin Art Magazine ? Or weekly local walks by @BitcoinWalk? Or events at @CYPHERMUNK HOUSE | LONDON or @Bitcoin House Bali 🏝️? My guess is that actual quality outlets like @No Bullshit Bitcoin would have survived and perhaps even thrived if we focused less on the grifters & finance bros, and more on the signal...
a lot of hopium in this post. and you aren't using it permissionlessly if you kyced yourself when you bought.
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jostric 1 month ago
Yeah your transaction history can be found a publicly viewable blockchain. If it's any significant amount I would probably look into this more and reach out to trusted friend that understands Bitcoin.