The Bitcoin Conference has had nothing but politicians, govt agents, bankers, and suits for the most part.
WTF happened to the Bitcoin ethos?
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It's what one might expect from a shitcoin suits conference.
What makes you think 'The bitcoiner ethos' depends on a conference for it's existence?
Bitcoin is money for enemies but this enemies are not allowed to our conferences
I ask myself that question a lot. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of bitcoiners have a number for which they're willing to part with their corn, and when that number comes up? The politicians, govt agents, bankers and suits are queuing up with their monopoly money to hoover it all up. Ethos be damned, it appears. People are so focused on NGU that they forget about FGU. Time to go back to school, plebs. Read the Cypherpunk Manifesto, read the whitepaper, read Broken Money, read Saifedean. Remind yourself what brought you to this space and what keeps you here.
Adopt a shitcoin for your region. Bring it value through labor not value through credit creation and fiat. Bitcoin merely showed the way. Start your own local indigenous currency and bring it value through sweat and blood.
Yes to this big time!!
Exactly 💯
Gotta get back to the roots if the movement 🫡
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So because someone has a right to speak their opinion, I must let them in my house?
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This is true. But forgive me if I don’t want pedophile enablers coming to my party.
It being held in Vegas is all we need to know! There’s good people there but Vegas is toxic to the soul.
this happens to every project, everywhere, all the time.
you can't go mainstream without it happening and I'm tired of Bitcoiners being shocked about it.
if you give a shit about the Bitcoin ethos, just use Monero.
I think for some their 'anti government' stance was merely frustration they didn't have power and now they're wealthy they see an opportunity.
Seems common amongst a certain strain of libertarians who hate anyone having power but are all too happy to weiod it over other people.
I don't vibe with that at all.
Is today corporate day or whatever? Last time I think they had a day, the first day, that was explicitly some such thing. I googled but didn't find answer
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.
Yea it’s pretty ghey now… inviting politicians that will lock up Bitcoiners in a sec are not the type of people you want at a Bitcoin conference.
Probably won’t be watching
I haven't paid any attention to the Bitcoin conference in years.
We agree on the ethos. But we disagree in which will be mass adoption by all of humanity.
Yeah, but that's usually well AFTER the hot chicks show up. Still waiting on that part...
All jokes aside, regardless of the scene getting whack, I'm hopeful the protocol will continue to work as sound money 🫂
In America 🤷
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Yes, you are too cool, i know 🫂
Very little the past few years
It was a thing, just saying. I forget exact name, but day 1 was specifically to segregate all the corpo type speakers. So if that's the case, maybe the impression is confounding the two. It's pretty "sell out" anyway, has been for a while, but just sayin
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Me too.
appreciate that. but it's not correct.
Monero isn't going to be mass adopted.
and Bitcoin will only be mass adopted if the on/off ramps are totally kyced and surveiled.
which is why the phenomenon you are observing vis a vis the conference is happening.
so i'd guess that we disagree that freedom will EVER be something that is "mass adopted" and more that a niche interest of principled people.
We'll come and bring our books to sell!
They cut off @Efrat Fenigson with Lynn Ulbricht to go to Saylor in YT!
this isnt new by any means.
just accelerating
Good point! But hiding in the darkness doesn't make you free. Being free is only convergent to those that do it out in the open. Not the ones that hide.
The masses often become principled people... but only after being rugged more openly than ever before.
And then only for about ten minutes, before they decide freedom is inconvenient and its easier to believe the next wave of elite assurances.
It says NZ
Never heard of it, does it still happen? If so, where?
Yea, that's in Alberta, I believe
"freedom" is am ongoing process.
not a condition that is achieved.
there are certainly people that are confined in the dark who are more "free" than some who walk in the light.
maybe 5 or 10 years no?
Join us at Lake Satoshi.
Where's that at?
Thats why you visit events like @Bitcoin FilmFest 😉 just plebs creating ✍️🎥🎞️🎬💻👨🏻💻👩💻 #nostr Less Talk more POW
I don't think our elites can hold off on the next fiat rugging for that long...
Australians have been gathering at Bush Bashes for years to just hang out, share and educate. Next one is very soon 
Being afraid of "authority" isn't freedom
Hell yeah 💪🫂
okay?
@Soap21 will be there helping grow the local circular economy
From what I've seen, they're good people. Cost us $50 to ship to Australia/NZ. They're filling a void, and doing the right thing
My alter ego
Adopting Bitcoin conference in El Salvador in November is so much more authentic
Have yet to go to El Salvador. On the bucket list
Yes in Calgary or maybe Banff (or both?) I haven't made it down for one, I am a few hours away. Great idea and I believe they have always had a great turnout!
I’m in
Trump's speech was a low point
Tough to watch.
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Firstly, this is Nostr, please don't be rude, that's for X.
Secondly, I was talking about a physical market/conference, Silk Road was digital. And my internet is super slow and doesn't load the names of npubs, so if Ross was tagged, I would have known what it was talking about.
silk road was what got the feds involved and gave us segwit, taproot, and nostr devs being paid to make nostr into X
which leads to the first line of your reply. do you see the through-line here?
Been going down the drain for a long time.
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It puzzled me when bitcoiners or crypto bros were cheering on regulation and politicians bring forth bills…I because Bitcoin doesn’t care. It’s a system to escape all that crap. I get it adoption drives price but cheering on the fact that the people bitcoin will put out of a job are adopting it is dumb
The ethos is still here. The Bitcoin Conference is not Bitcoin.
i'm sure you wish you could blow yourself, why else would you ask me?
What is Momero? Why…? Bitcoin ethos will always be Bitcoin ethos as soon as you dislike what that is or has changed to, you fork. BTC still has the longest and unbroken chain.
Lmao just don’t go to the conference who gives a fuck
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I agree, I wouldn’t want them either. But Nakamoto and BTC Inc live from them, and it’s their house and not yours or mine
Again, don’t take it personally but the conference is not your party. It’s Nakamoto’s and BTC Inc’s.
And it makes total sense that these guys invite the suits.
Do you run BIP-110?
Should we even bother stacking at this point?
lmao
Bitcoin conf doesn’t represent Bitcoin imo. They’re just riding the wave
every tool of power always attracts the same groups of people
The Bitcoin conference definitely represents Bitcoin imo. Anyone who uses Bitcoin in any way represents Bitcoin. I don't think there's anything like good or bad representation for Bitcoin because no one's narrative about it trumps anyone else's.
It's just that feds and bankers think they can take all the Bitcoin because it's the strongest money and give the rest of the world paper instruments instead. Why I think they want to take over the conference is to put their weight all over Bitcoin to make the general population think of them as the portals into Bitcoin.
But it's so easy to custody and use Bitcoin peer-to-peer that I don't think it'll ever work out in the long run that they can be that gatekeeper as well as they are for gold. Every time they wreck people who hold paper Bitcoin, the smart ones will shift to self custody.
I agree 🤝
Literally:
We should be angry. It was a full on insult to the community.
Bitcoin doesn’t need conferences. Conferences need Bitcoin.
"Bitcoin ethos will always be Bitcoin ethos"
no, it wont. the social context these things exist in are always changing and are NEVER static.
how much of your bitcoin was bought through a KYC on-ramp?
Totally, I agree the social aspect will always be changing but the protocol is not. BTC is still doing what it’s supposed to. Decentralized and permission less.
KYC does suck but that’s a fiat problem any time you touch those rails the state wants to know about it. As people use BTC and the layers built on it you will interact with fiat less and less.
This past one in January? That's disappointing. I went in Jan 2025 and it was fantastic
That's what it seems like at times
Why are you (not you specifically - I mean pretty much the whole "community") giving those grifters airtime? Weren't Shitcoin Magazine & Co. supposed to fall off into obscurity after enabling NFT's and shitcoinery in 2022? Or the Ordinals fiasco in 2023? Or after the $NAKA launch?
There are so many great projects in this space that are much more worthy of our time and attention.
I pay attention so that I know where the culture is moving. While Bitcoin is the purest, hardest money,... it's also driven a certain culture in it's beginning. One of freedom.
And just like money, culture changes people's minds as well.
He asked how much % BTC you bought through KYC?
Hey that’s fair. Can’t argue with that. There are good people out there doing good work too.
I agree. But my point is more like... culture is what we make of it. We can delete BTC Inc. from the story by not giving it our attention and focusing it on other projects. Why not talk/support/share stuff that @The Rage puts out? Or @Timechain Art Magazine ? Or weekly local walks by @BitcoinWalk? Or events at @CYPHERMUNK HOUSE | LONDON or @Bitcoin House Bali 🏝️?
My guess is that actual quality outlets like @No Bullshit Bitcoin would have survived and perhaps even thrived if we focused less on the grifters & finance bros, and more on the signal...
Was Schiff on a panel? That's dumb if so
I actually lost all my BTC…. Can’t you see that on the block chain? People talk all the time about how little privacy the net work has apparently? You should be able to find my transaction history?
a lot of hopium in this post.
and you aren't using it permissionlessly if you kyced yourself when you bought.
"some rando on the internet can't identify my utxos, therefore bitcoin is private"
come on man
Yeah your transaction history can be found a publicly viewable blockchain. If it's any significant amount I would probably look into this more and reach out to trusted friend that understands Bitcoin.
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