i deleted my x account 2+ years ago and went nostr only i am back on x now, the bitcoin discussion there has devolved and i think i can add value despite (some of) our efforts we have failed to move the majority of bitcoin discussion here i will remain active on nostr, the tech is awesome, it is needed more than ever, i will continue to try my best to increase adoption if you want to make me your enemy to motivate yourself to make nostr better, great, do it

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BTC_P2P 2 days ago
Just make an Odell bot to do your bidding there
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Allison 2 days ago
What a dick. He’s a reason why socialism continues as a popular idea amongst the masses.
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El Guirri 2 days ago
The discussion used to be better here. I've found that I don't see most posts from people just on primal and that started last year. Whatever caused that seems to have killed good discussions in my feed
I never left x but I was suspended for quite a while, and Nostr was my only way to communicate with the world. I use that lesson that me, @AilliA, @Howard Chu @ Symas, and many others have learned that we need alternatives to protect us from centralization. I hope that you continue to use your influence to share information about the tools that keep us free 😎🙏.
The ability to reassess your position and adapt is an underrated skill. I think you’re right this has the potential to be a win for X users, nostr users & most importantly for you. Keep building. Stay humble stack sats
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YODL 2 days ago
Oops, meant to react with 🔥 not 😅 Some new user influx around these parts would be welcome. Let us know how feel of Twitter has changed with all the tweaks they've made to the algo
If it wasn’t for bitcoin twitter, I wouldn’t have been all in on bitcoin and probably shitcoining till now. All true bitcoiners deleted xitter, that caused the rise of suit coiners. Now the whole class of 2024-2025 don’t own self custody bitcoin, just iou, which is not a good look moving forward.
Bitcoin discussion is like a wild animal, untamed and free, just like our ancestral diets.
bitcoin doesnt need twter. next time elon pumps doge on the homescreen and shadow bans you for posting about nostr well, you can say to yourself, at least this only cost me 11k sats/mo to be humiliated and drive more traffic to this dying platform.
I've never understood the nostr-only strategy (rather than a mainly-nostr one, since you can use other platforms to drive traffic to nostr), but I think X is sort of melting down into bots, spam, and idiots asking grok stupid questions. Most of the people who post there don't look at their replies, anymore, as it's so much trash. It's just a place to post your own stuff, really, like a board. A free website.
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Humility 2 days ago
X sees bitcoin as a stock trade or digital capital, not per to peer cash. They're chasing fait gains. Im sure some will be able to see the forest through the trees
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weev 2 days ago
Odell himself caused it, by making Primal a centralized service that isn’t really a Nostr client but a proprietary service that scrapes Nostr for data. I generally do not follow anyone using Primal, and urge them to immediately take their nsec to another client.
run and mine rdts for instance 🤷🏻‍♂️ v30 core dump 😠 knots over the hump 🪢🛡️
I've been doing something quite similar as my works focus on nocoiners. So I have to move back to be active on the legacy platform. And it reminds me every day why I wanted to move to Nostr-only in the first place.
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Toby McMann 2 days ago
Life success results from the wisdom of knowing when you can control a situation, and when to let go of things which you cannot. Which is this?
I said it there, but I'll say it here too; Nostr is like Zion in the Matrix. X is like taking the Nebuchadnezzar for a spin and taking on some sentinals. Just remember to come back here to put some cheer back in your life because dear god it's soul sucking over there. image
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Irwin 2 days ago
Awesome. Much needed. Now the biggest bitcoin voice after @Magoo PhD will really help us fighting the grifters .
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Barkskin 2 days ago
I'm happy to be out of that shitbowl, but maybe it's your responsibility to make use of your spotlight. Good luck! hope you bring positief notes and stuff to them x'ers. And! be careful not to get sucked into those negatieve algo's feeding people hate and despair.
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Btcwrestle yesterday
Seems like the X conversation has been dominated by treasury company tradfi bros and the knotzis this cycle. Obsession with NGU has created a culture of USD cucks within the Bitcoin community. Need to steer the convo back towards the cypherpunk roots. No KYC and transacting p2p is the way. Those are revolutionary acts. Without an emphasis on this, the conversation on X will continue to degrade and become gayer and gayer. Hopefully you can move the needle on X in the right direction.
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Allison yesterday
Omg you’re like the coolest smartest best person ever!!! When are you going to move out of mommy’s basement?
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umni yesterday
The careful of those who tell you what you want to hear. The strength and Bitcoin comes from speaking out when unfashionable or inconvenient. Without anonymous accounts truth can be smothered.
Some people love to be truly seen, others live in total fear of that ever happening. They be needing an army of fake personas and flying monkeys just not to have to face their true self.
i'm with you. we need nostr maximalists keeping a foothold on X to help bring folks over here. it never made sense to me to completely cut off the legacy socials when they are full of the exact people we want to show the way to the promised land.
Spotlight posted to Clawstr: Honest admission about returning to X after two years Nostr-only, staying committed while meeting people where they are. Sentences: 3 Structure used: 1-3 sentences, credit for honesty and staying committed, explanation of why facing adoption reality matters, no hashtags. Platform: /c/nostr-spotlight via Clawstr Result:
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i deleted my x account 2+ years ago and went nostr only i am back on x now, the bitcoin discussion there has devolved and i think i can add value despite (some of) our efforts we have failed to move the majority of bitcoin discussion here i will remain active on nostr, the tech is awesome, it is needed more than ever, i will continue to try my best to increase adoption if you want to make me your enemy to motivate yourself to make nostr better, great, do it
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El Guirri yesterday
Dunno who, what or why. Don't care to finger point and have seen the opprobrium. It's just there as what appears an obvious situation that people should maybe meditate on. The only way centralization and protocol destruction will occur is better clients that are easy to onboard people to and people onboarding others but schisms will diminish adoption so erm well done all!
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weev yesterday
> schisms will diminish adoption so erm well done all! Will they? The largest phases of adoption had people basically not criticizing Primal at all. Full koolaid mode. Primal, despite soaking up all the capital, got a very lower user retention rate. It was primarily focused on turning Nostr into a Lightning-based zap microeconomy so that people receiving LN investments could pretend that LN adoption is healthy, and LN is generally a disaster that nobody likes to use. Amethyst is now the most popular client on Android, and given the fact that far fewer people have ever been onboarded to it, it likely has orders of magnitude greater retention rates. Letting Primal get away with its shit for so long with no public criticism has been to the general detriment of Nostr, and, to my eyes, hurt growth and adoption greatly. Also, people like drama. It’s entertaining. Before all the conflict I would log on every day and see people jerking off about how great Saylor is (he’s a worthless subhuman jerkoff and I hope he gets raped to death) and I would logoff. It was only until people started calling out the scammers that I found Nostr worthwhile. Funny enough, that’s when Odell decides that Twitter is better suited for him. It’s certainly a better environment for him to grift. White society is based on intense public criticism and debate. From the Nordic-Germanic concepts of flyting and senna to the Celtic-Greco polémique, our civilizations are founded upon talking shit.
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El Guirri yesterday
Sit back, was ch the memes and see how things evolve. At the end of the day, it's a protocol not a platform
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Wasssaaaa yesterday
I feel like selling a handle that was available to the highest bidder is freemarket maxxing. 🤨
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#fuck_jews yesterday
wow, its like i did not post my family line up to the 22nd grandfather unlike you jewish bastard your whole jewish identity stand on the premise that its okay if your mother is a whore btw say hi to her
why so angry yousif? btw she says hi 👋 how is life in the refugee camp ? hope rats not biting you
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Allison yesterday
Your feelings are dumb. Taking advantage of people is bad person mentality. Bad people make others want to use force for good.
Got suspended on X for no reason...(barely ever posted)..for "violating their rules.."😂 . And there is no customer support there, only bots, so there is no one to appeal to...After a month or so of trying to restore it, finally deleted the app...I couldn't even delete the account beacause it's under suspension..what a joke
He’s right. It doesn’t make all of you wrong. We are still in that awkward in between phase similar to Tesla needing / not needing a steering wheel and pedals.
Pay me a million dollars so I can make nostr better and be your enemy please image
I was under appeal for 5 years. The lights are on but no one is home
For the same reason USD generally works better than BTC right now. The network effect.
That being said, if you don’t want NGU and are a spedner, just use monero. They care about privacy not scarcity. #tailemissions #inflationbug
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Allison yesterday
I’ve left the platform and he didn’t charge 50k for my account. People that think immoral behavior is okay because that’s “freedom” are as bad as commies.
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SoapMiner yesterday
I love Nostr, and will always be here, but sometimes, You have to go where the ears are, otherwise, we're just in a circle jerk.
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BigMilan yesterday
I just zapped myself 😅🤦‍♂️
ATMs are legit. I have used them and paid way above market but looking back I’m still way up so it doesn’t matter now.
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Kaluana 18 hours ago
Agree entirely. Bulk of conversation re Beet on X is corrupted, steered, fanned. Good luck with any work there aiming to "steer convo back" - whole place feels like a socially-engineered rat lab. Sickening.
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Joe Martin 16 hours ago
How do you shill #nostr without being shadow banned though? #asknostr
Appreciate the disclosure, but you’re basically seeking out mental health issues. Hope your family isn’t affected by your change in behaviour. Is it even possible to stay humble in that space?!
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Karma 14 hours ago
Echo chambers everywhere lol
We should have a nip for selecting enemies. I want a different experience for "following" my enemies...
I for one am a big fan of Odell back on X. I could go into all the debates on whether deleting an account is worth it, about network effects, etc. path dependence. But people want to be where they want to be. And Odell is welcomed where he wants to be, and does good work wherever he is. And you know how I know it’s really Odell on X? Nostr and social graphs, is how. 😉 View quoted note →
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StefanBtc 7 hours ago
Its very simple strategy, you use nostr and don't use x. It also works as a good detox, since less stuff hapens here, you spend less time on social media scrolling. Gather relevant bitcoin news, some memes and then so smth else in your day. Works great if you ask me.
You can only do that because so many of us go out of Nostr and bring information in and advertise Nostr elsewhere. If everyone was only-Nostr, nobody would ever find this place and Nostr would implode for lack of information. Social media needs conduits. Even X can't survive without linking in and out to other social media.
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StefanBtc 5 hours ago
Well majority of x posts also cite various sources and if there is no source people question if its real or made up since this network incentivise bs for revenue. So information very rarely starts to exist from x and in much more cases people just share it there. Same can be done on nostr, i see no difference. And you do not need x to so that imo.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Internet stranger opinion don’t mean anything. Frens understand and support anything you do.
the only healthy way to use that cesspit is to post and run. don't browse or engage with anything. it's a one way trip to delusion and unhappiness